Message from @dbel
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states can establish their own laws for their own states but what they can not do is violate existing national laws in those legal systems of their own states in violation of the constitution and bill of rights
they can take a constitutionally passed law on national level and make local amendments to it to expand it, but not make amendments to it in order to limit it
and ppl wonder why oregan too so long to become a state, they had a zero black ppl clause in their territory constitution
Ok I understand that but states attempted to institute a religion before and were stopped because it was unconstitutional
took them a while to track down everything to remove it
well if the religion's practices were unconstitutional..then it's a valid reason
say like human sacrificing and human slavery
That’s also grounds for restricting a religion. What happened then is some states endorsed one religion over the other for no secular reason and that is unconstitutional
So they were stopped
i seriously think satanism will have to get a serious legal team together in the future if they want to practice rituals that take human lives they do so on the grounds of legal agreements of the person being sacrificed with impartial witnesses so no constitutional rights nor human rights are being violated
well i pretty much think some changes will go into effect in various states over the next few yrs if not decades to clarify these positions on religion and establishment of such
> well i pretty much think some changes will go into effect in various states over the next few yrs if not decades to clarify these positions on religion and establishment of such
@Deleted User where is the original article we were discussing?
about an hr or so back
Ok I went to look for it and didn’t find it
well u kinda jumped into a discussion between me and another
we kinda splintered off the main article a bit
Was it the affirmative action?
ya
Ahhhh okok
I was mistaken to even jump in there oog, my bad
ok, this here is nearly identical to the national constitutional bill into law creation ...except during 'covid lockdown', where it would be illegal to do so if they tried to pass a law without public review first
public review and opinion on the subject if it were to become a law is req'd for various stages on a national level...and in state level bills into laws
which is why sometimes u see public review vids leak online ....it's req'd by constitutional law on a national level
they can't throw it out even during a pandemic lockdown....and go around it
constitutionally ...the whole lockdown was voluntary ...they can't force u to lockdown without violating ur rights
I understand that but there are also clauses like the supremacy clause. It states that no matter what if state law contradicts with national law then the national law must be obeyed. As long as what is happening there doesn’t conflict with national law it’s ok, but if the states try to make a law that conflicts with or contradicts national law the states law doesn’t count and following that law would be illegal.
if they did force u to lockdown...then u can sue the shit out of them for rights violation
well all non constitutional laws are illegal laws
So we actually agree there from what I see
yep
Ok cool lol
some idiot 2 weeks back tried to tell me to wear a mask in the store...said it was the law, i replied with "no, it's not"
a guideline isn't a law, it's a suggestion
Nah it’s just a mandate and mandate isn’t law
a mandate isn't a law, it's also a suggestion for favor of common sense
Although they should definitely repeal affirmative action
Exactly
an ordiance is a warning, not a law
well any such repeal would have to be done constitutionally