It's not that they were silent, it's just that the polls didn't address their issues. Can't just fit them all into one tiny poll.

And that's why Hillary was dancing.

I have been having a hard time finding actual studies proving human involvement in recent climate change. My buddy is kind of a libtard on most political issues but he presented a decent argument I guess. I told him, let’s just say humans are involved in climate change for the sake of the argument, is it very urgent that we have to change and waste a massive amount of money to make that change possible(we are referring to the green new deal which plans to eliminate the need for oil and gas within 10 years) because it said the earth has only risen on average 1.8 degrees world wide since 1950... I said we only have 90 years of gas left, can be just slowly transition out of oil and gas as electric cars tech becomes more affordable and efficient than gas, which would lead people to switch regardless. His counter argument was 1.8 degrees is a really big deal, he then said if you don’t think 1.8 degrees is a big deal, how much different does 74 degrees feel in your house vs 72 degrees. I was like damn you got a point, 74 feels like I’m burning in hell and 72 is nice and chilly in comparison. I’m not a scientist and this topic seems to have a massive amount of miss information but we live in Miami and he’s worried about Miami going under water in the near future

@Odb You'll most likely find science that shows the earth has its natural cycles of climate change regardless of human involvement because that's just the way that nature goes. Climate change occurs in a matter of decades. Also, the Green New Deal is ass. Solar and wind turbines cause a lot of harm to birds. They cause the death of birds to the hundreds of thousands a year. Solar plants are like laser beams to the sky. And these birds help pollonate the earth responsible for the growth of trees and plants. Also, the fires burning in California are necessary. Burning the shrubbery allows for the land to refertilize and allows for new plants to grow and it keeps weeds out from killing off the necessary trees and plants that need to grow. The fires burning in California are usually deliberate and controlled. Governor Newsom has a stupid agenda however.

Get a book to teach you archaeological dating or geology.

@Red Jasper yeah I presented him with that information. He’s extremely stubborn like most liberals. Unless I present him with hard data he won’t believe me. Except he can’t present me with any data proving that humans are the cause of climate change. So we are stuck in this stale mate

Yeah he probably doesn't have the hard evidence. I was an archaeologist years ago, so I speak from my own experience and research.

But still

these assholes are relentless.

and I don't want to pull out my data.

They're not my university

i won't get a degree from them

we just have to choose our battles when it comes to people.

because they're just there to tear you down.

I am not denying climate change is happening but my main point is the green new deal is crap. We’re going to have to make changes regardless within the next 100 years because we are running out of natural resources, so I was just saying some solid evidence would need to be presented if you want 7 billion people to dramatically Change the way they live

Even if we change, I don’t think India and China will, and they make up half the world’s population

@Odb oh no I can't stand the way they try to present climate change like it's this new phenomena that never occurs. I get where you're coming from. But if these people understood that climate change always happens, they'll realize it's no big deal.

@Odb nah... we just have to start engaging in asteroid mining... That's our solution. lol

That's why we started the Space Force

@Red Jasper yeah their argument is that climate change has been proven to be happening at double the rate it normally does. But where is the conclusive data

Nature.

lol

i know. They've thrown that one at me before

there's no end to them

they're like flat earthers

I guess since we live in Miami it’s been a big concern because we’re at that age that we are looking to buy property and he’s convince that he’s throwing money down the drain

But to be real... Are we really losing resources? If you think about it, we branched out to China for a while, but why are they trying to come out the U.S.? And I know there are some new mineral mining companies opening up.

If the media is in bed with China, maybe they're pushing that lie for a reason.

The lie that is climate change and low resources.

China also gives off the most emissions.

Idk I have looked it up online and I get a variety of answers, a lot of places state that based on their current knowledge we have about 50-60 years of gas/oil left but I just round that up to 90 because I’m sure they data will change if they find more oil deposits

I think they mean globally

Well right now I've seen an investment into hydraulic battery power.

Shit is confusing.

Yeah I haven’t done much research I was just trying to counter argue my buddy. I was telling him that people are naturally going to change to a cheaper solution as gas prices raise due to low supply and it will cause people to transfer to electric

but I think we're doing way better than we think we are.

I see it the same way we see diamonds. Diamonds are not scarce, but people think they are scarce and rare. They're not. The company that monopolizes diamonds just hordes it all and sells it for more money. That's how they cause the demand. I wouldn't be the surpised if the same is occuring with oil. So the saying goes, "control oil; you control a nation. Control food; you control people."

And who has a lot of foooood? California.

gem stone industry is so packed with supplies, they horde it just to keep the demand high enough to profit off it

https://twitter.com/AmyMek/status/1307810333805821952

The left will always propose the craziest position toward their side because they know the Moderates will help them push us to the left by trying to get us to accept a slightly less irrational position. That is how the left ultimately wins even when they are losing. The issue is not with the left, it is with the Middle. And everyone in politics knows this, the people with the least discernment end up driving the conversation because the people with slightly more discernment than them want to "just get along".