Message from @Stargatemaster96

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2021-01-05 00:39:19 UTC  

Why would anyone even bother designing that with as cheap as NAND is now days

2021-01-05 00:39:40 UTC  

Its from 2012 AFAIK

2021-01-05 00:40:04 UTC  

I got it ludicrously cheap on ebay, they are being dumped as obsolete server hardware

2021-01-05 00:40:25 UTC  

I do back it up though, seeing as its 8 years old

2021-01-05 00:41:05 UTC  

It gets average random speeds, but the sequential is really good unless you compare it to NVME

2021-01-05 00:42:03 UTC  

I have a 64 GB SSD for about 2008/9 still being used as the boot drive for one of my VM cluster nodes. The VM's are all served over the network so it's only for booting the lightweight Linux OS but I needed a drive for it and I had it laying around. I couldn't even make myself use an old HDD for that when I had an SSD.

2021-01-05 00:42:45 UTC  

A lot of those older SSDs likely use SLC or MLC, and will last a very long time

2021-01-05 00:43:10 UTC  

This one uses eMLC, which is mlc that trades 15% less write speed for 3x longer lifespan

2021-01-05 00:43:58 UTC  

I go MLC whenever possible, I have an NVME MLC in my workstation. There were faster drives at the time but it was one of the few where you could still get MLC.

2021-01-05 00:44:57 UTC  

Yeah, and now they have QLC, and are trying to make PLC! The write speed on PLC might honestly end up worse than an HDD

2021-01-05 00:45:05 UTC  

It's still able to sacurate my 10 gb home network so it's fast enough, when I upgrade to 40 gb networking I'll need a faster drive but that' still a few years away.

2021-01-05 00:45:40 UTC  

Even TLC can be really horrible when you fill the SLC cache, copying large files on a Kingston A400 eventually slowed to 20MB/s!

2021-01-05 00:46:13 UTC  

If i ever got 10gb networking this F40 could saturate it, at least in RAID 0

2021-01-05 00:47:18 UTC  

But i would need a better motherboard, as my pcie 2.0 x4 chipset is bottlenecking it

2021-01-05 00:47:31 UTC  

Wow, that's really bad. Many of my HDD's are faster then that, even before them being in a RAID.

2021-01-05 00:48:05 UTC  

Thats why i gave the A400 to my brother just to use as a boot drive, when i upgraded to the Sun F40

2021-01-05 00:48:25 UTC  

The read speeds are excellent for sata, just the write speeds on big files are what kills it for me

2021-01-05 00:49:00 UTC  

How large does the file have to be to overflow the buffer.

2021-01-05 00:50:39 UTC  

Anything more than roughly 16GB

2021-01-05 00:51:23 UTC  

Whereas this F40 doesn't utilize SLC caching and just direct writes to eMLC, and does 800MB/s across the entire drives' capacity

2021-01-05 00:51:52 UTC  

Ok, so even a fairly small file transfer over a gigabit ethernet would overflow the SLC.

2021-01-05 00:52:00 UTC  

Yep!

2021-01-05 00:53:05 UTC  

Although my home network is only 100mb/s, and isp is 10mbps if i'm lucky, i will upgrade to fiber as soon as they start selling it

2021-01-05 00:53:17 UTC  

they have already laid the lines they just need to get the equipment setup

2021-01-05 00:55:02 UTC  

Gigabit LAN is cheap, just wish the same could be said for WAN. It's 2021, 100 mb interent with no caps should be the minimum now days

2021-01-05 00:55:45 UTC  

Every PC other than my P4 laptop has gigabit lan, i just need to upgrade my router when i get fiber

2021-01-05 00:56:12 UTC  

Hopefully Starlink will bring a future like that. It's curently able to give over 100mb/s symetric, low latency, and no data caps. Eventually the constilation will cover most of the Earth.

2021-01-05 00:56:27 UTC  

Heck, it can get lower latency than optical fibre!

2021-01-05 00:56:46 UTC  

Because its so low + light through a vacuum is a lot faster than fibre apparently

2021-01-05 00:57:05 UTC  

At least i heard that

2021-01-05 00:59:00 UTC  

I'd just get a 16 port switch and then upgrade the router when you get faster.

It's low latency but I don't think is lower then fiber. The sats are low enough in the atmosphere there is still a lot of air, plus you have to worry about interference. You also need to remember part of the latency is the feed upto the sats, then mybe the connection between sats, then back down to earth where it will then transverse traditional fiber.

2021-01-05 01:00:07 UTC  

Maybe the sat to sat speed is on par or faster then fiber but the up and down to earth I can't see how it could be faster.

2021-01-05 01:02:45 UTC  

In normal optical fibers (silica glass), light travels a full 31% slower according to 2 seconds of research, i think air is 99 something as fast as vacuum

2021-01-05 01:03:23 UTC  

ideally the whole transfer other than base stations goes across the nework, but i think its just gonna end up on par

2021-01-05 01:03:24 UTC  

Random side fact. For short transisions inside say a building, you can actually get lower latency using copper rather then fiber. This is because the conversion of electrical impulses to light and then back at the other side can add up. Over longer distances fiber wins thou because it needs to be boosted less often then cooper which is why fiber is used for very long distances.

2021-01-05 01:03:49 UTC  

The transceivers for fiber definitly need a lot more active processing thats for sure

2021-01-05 02:11:43 UTC  

boo blocked for me

2021-01-05 03:28:11 UTC  

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2021-01-05 03:28:52 UTC  

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2021-01-05 03:29:00 UTC  

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2021-01-05 03:29:04 UTC  

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