Message from @Stargatemaster96

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2021-01-05 00:28:40 UTC  

Atom n270...

2021-01-05 00:29:06 UTC  

Where did they even get 1st gen Intel computers? Also, Atom isn't completely terrible, I set my mom up with an Atom laptop about 8 years ago with an SSD and 8GB of RAM. For her at the time it was powerful enough to read emails when she couldn't use her desktop when my dad was asleep or to do some shopping while in the living room. Now days thou I'd never recommend an Atom over even a low end AMD CPU.

2021-01-05 00:29:58 UTC  

They've been there since before i was a freshman (senior now)

2021-01-05 00:30:11 UTC  

So i guess they bought them when they were new and never upgraded

2021-01-05 00:30:26 UTC  

Although they have been upgrading most of them to SSD at least, which is smart

2021-01-05 00:30:55 UTC  

The atom i had couldn't even run half life 1, but it did at least do 360p youtube

2021-01-05 00:30:55 UTC  

Are they attempting to run them with Windows 10? Also, the SSD is proablly the only reason they are still simi usable.

2021-01-05 00:31:02 UTC  

Windows 10, yep

2021-01-05 00:31:43 UTC  

There is even a Pentium D windows XP pc as well, but its just for running some legacy yearbook program i think

2021-01-05 00:32:13 UTC  

Doesnt help at all that they have 2 antiviruses and 3 remote monitoring clients at once

2021-01-05 00:33:21 UTC  

Yeah, about 6 years ago, after I graduated from High school, I helped upgrade my high schools ancient student laptops with SSDs and install Windows 10 on them. It took forever to install Windows 10 on them. They also had me install SSDs and Windows 10 on some desktops that were origionally XP.

2021-01-05 00:33:30 UTC  

They upgraded to 10 (from 7) at the last moment pretty much before they had to pay for extended support

2021-01-05 00:33:49 UTC  

My brother actually uses a q9550 with 8gb of ram, an ssd, and its actually really fast

2021-01-05 00:33:54 UTC  

SSDs do wonders

2021-01-05 00:34:46 UTC  

I'm currently using a 3570 with a 64gb sandisk u110 boot ssd, and a Sun Oracle F40 400GB for storage

2021-01-05 00:34:58 UTC  

Terrible thing was, at the time the student desktop in the Middle School office was still running XP despite it not having support for a few years at that point. It couldn't even load some modern websites at the time correctly because Chrome stopped supporting XP.

2021-01-05 00:35:20 UTC  

Dang, at least our school was smart enough to keep the XP machine off the network entirely

2021-01-05 00:36:58 UTC  

Wost part, this was a private school

2021-01-05 00:37:03 UTC  

The F40 is a pretty interesting SSD, its basicly a 4X SAS HBA with 4 100GB ssds on board

2021-01-05 00:37:17 UTC  

Serriously? thats a shame

2021-01-05 00:39:19 UTC  

Why would anyone even bother designing that with as cheap as NAND is now days

2021-01-05 00:39:40 UTC  

Its from 2012 AFAIK

2021-01-05 00:40:04 UTC  

I got it ludicrously cheap on ebay, they are being dumped as obsolete server hardware

2021-01-05 00:40:25 UTC  

I do back it up though, seeing as its 8 years old

2021-01-05 00:41:05 UTC  

It gets average random speeds, but the sequential is really good unless you compare it to NVME

2021-01-05 00:42:03 UTC  

I have a 64 GB SSD for about 2008/9 still being used as the boot drive for one of my VM cluster nodes. The VM's are all served over the network so it's only for booting the lightweight Linux OS but I needed a drive for it and I had it laying around. I couldn't even make myself use an old HDD for that when I had an SSD.

2021-01-05 00:42:45 UTC  

A lot of those older SSDs likely use SLC or MLC, and will last a very long time

2021-01-05 00:43:10 UTC  

This one uses eMLC, which is mlc that trades 15% less write speed for 3x longer lifespan

2021-01-05 00:43:58 UTC  

I go MLC whenever possible, I have an NVME MLC in my workstation. There were faster drives at the time but it was one of the few where you could still get MLC.

2021-01-05 00:44:57 UTC  

Yeah, and now they have QLC, and are trying to make PLC! The write speed on PLC might honestly end up worse than an HDD

2021-01-05 00:45:05 UTC  

It's still able to sacurate my 10 gb home network so it's fast enough, when I upgrade to 40 gb networking I'll need a faster drive but that' still a few years away.

2021-01-05 00:45:40 UTC  

Even TLC can be really horrible when you fill the SLC cache, copying large files on a Kingston A400 eventually slowed to 20MB/s!

2021-01-05 00:46:13 UTC  

If i ever got 10gb networking this F40 could saturate it, at least in RAID 0

2021-01-05 00:47:18 UTC  

But i would need a better motherboard, as my pcie 2.0 x4 chipset is bottlenecking it

2021-01-05 00:47:31 UTC  

Wow, that's really bad. Many of my HDD's are faster then that, even before them being in a RAID.

2021-01-05 00:48:05 UTC  

Thats why i gave the A400 to my brother just to use as a boot drive, when i upgraded to the Sun F40

2021-01-05 00:48:25 UTC  

The read speeds are excellent for sata, just the write speeds on big files are what kills it for me

2021-01-05 00:49:00 UTC  

How large does the file have to be to overflow the buffer.

2021-01-05 00:50:39 UTC  

Anything more than roughly 16GB

2021-01-05 00:51:23 UTC  

Whereas this F40 doesn't utilize SLC caching and just direct writes to eMLC, and does 800MB/s across the entire drives' capacity

2021-01-05 00:51:52 UTC  

Ok, so even a fairly small file transfer over a gigabit ethernet would overflow the SLC.