but again, was too expensive compaired to the F-22 at the time

like the MBT-70 was for its time

well, not really

Let's just build an x-wing

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the MBT-70/KpMz-70 had a whole host of problems not related to its cost

I mean what can go wrong?!

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one of the issues of the MBT-70 was that, due to the entire crew being placed inside the turret, the drivers would experience nausea whenever driving and the turret was turrned

another issue was with its Caseless ammunition leaving behind massive amounts of residue that made the gun inoperable after a few uses

and the final issue was doctrine clashes between the US and Germany

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well, only a few versions of it had a 20mm

my question is: why arent there 20mm machine guns on modern mbts?

the reason? turrets need to be as compact as possible but enough enough room for the gun itself and the crew, a 20mm autocannon, even a low pressure one, would take up way too much space inside the tank to really be of use

France tho with the modern AMX series did have a 20mm coaxial, which was more to be used as a rangefinder instead of an MG

but their tanks turret was, well it wasnt exactly compact and wasnt exactly well armored

you can see just how massive the coaxial is in this pic

Now we're talking about a tank? Gah you're too fast.

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speaking of stuff that isnt well armored

hey someone mentioned a tank

what about the new north korean tank?

with its smoke launchers in the turret

isnt that a pretty massive armor flaw?

not exactly

this concept has already been played around with other stuff, like the Polish PL-01 prototype stealth tank

looks like a modern CV-90

well, the idea of the PL-01 was to be built onto the Anders light tank platform (which is already a pretty decent tank platform for what it is) and modify it to use technologies based off of Aircraft stealth tech, its sharp edges to bounce radar sigs and its black paint to absorb some of it

its sexy af

i wish more tanks looked like that

which, while it was an aspiring idea. the vehicle would ultimately never leave prototyping stages due to the designers having absolutely no idea what kinda doctrine they wanted the vehicle to operate in

but it would spark interest in American armor designers to look at the idea of stealth tanks but make it something that could actually work. Enter the Bae Systems thermal heat sync plates. an idea that essentually uses small plates that can absorbe or disperse the heat generated by the vehicle to make it look like anything it wants under Thermal vision, such as looking like a truck or like a cow

This is such a cool channel 👍

here you can see some of it in use

looks like a car thats ready for a summer trip at the beach on the right yes? well on the left it shows you its actual true form to a degree

thats fucking awesome

it's amazing how far technology has come since ww2

Mhm