that pepsi bottle could probably sell for a decent price to some collectors

They’d commit the most horrible crime of all with those; color outside the lines.

You know, it makes me feel old when hear people say that during the Civil War the North didnt have any slave states, because i remember when that was taught as the main reason why during the middle of the civil war after Gettysburg Lincoln didnt ban slavery in the North because he wanted to keep the support of his slave states along the border kf the US and the Confederacy during the war

remember he was more concerned with preserving the union at that point

Yeah

He didnt want to lose more states than he already did

Especislly since one of the border union slave states practically surrounded DC on all sides

And iirc the real reason pretty much about the Gettysburg address was to pretty much be a full propaganda move to unite the general populace of the Union, as fuckloads of people in places like New York were getting tired of their sons and husbands being conscripted to fight the south by the thousands and clashes were breaking out between the populace and the state police and military officials

Becsuse while the South lost at Gettysburg, they didnt lose without taking out massive Union numbers

And if the news broke out of the Union losses of the battle, shit would have went to hell inside the Union

Any merit to the "Lincoln freed the slaves to help prevent Great Britain from joining the Confederacy, so they can take down USA and maintain flow of cotton" theory?

I don’t think so. But none of us were there. What I do know is that the brown people of Brazil had roughly the same amount of African slaves as North America had, so not strictly a white supremacy issue

no merrit on the Lincoln freein the slaves to keep Britian from interferin, but it is true that Russia of all countries prevented Britian from interferin in the war because Russia made it clear they would invade Europe if Britian and France sent their soldiers to fight with the South

Interesting...

To both @yeti_steamroller and @Zilla messages.

Didn't know Russia was even interested in either side at that point.

and Yeti, not many people know that, myself included. Any idea when they outlawed slavery?

Russia didnt have any reason to side with either, it was more looking for revenge against France and Britain for what they did to Russia in a prevous war

@Rhonyn it was 1888 if I am to believe google or 20 years after the Civil War

The sad thing is really that no country has done a better job of integrating people from all over the world than the USA has done. We are so far ahead of where we used to be but can always be better. People shouldn’t lose sight of the good in the pursuit of better. I always wonder who the protests are meant to convince. Nobody thinks it was ok for George Floyd to die there, etc

Unfortunately, that's too warm and fuzzy for clicks and views.

I would imagine it’s a bit awkward living as white or black in say Japan or China where almost no integration exists

> no merrit on the Lincoln freein the slaves to keep Britian from interferin, but it is true that Russia of all countries prevented Britian from interferin in the war because Russia made it clear they would invade Europe if Britian and France sent their soldiers to fight with the South
@Zilla So for once Russia were the good guys

if you look at it that way yeah, they prevented the US Civil War from being a world war

@Deleted User honestly Russia wasn’t so bad until the communist revolution. Tsar Nicholas was cousin of King George of England. Russian people aren’t inherently bad like the popular narrative. Sadly they aren’t protected by the SJWs though due to their white privilege

True, I've just done enough research into Finnish history I guess I've gotten to the point where I dislike russians almost naturally

I get it. But looking back at how we reacted to the Cuban missile crisis and then imagining us having arms all along the Ukraine border makes me scratch my head

The world was saved by a Russian back in that crisis.

Anyone remember that time Kennedy wanted to train cubans to attack some kids in Miami and use it as a declaration of war? No? Just me?

Wait he did that?

Operation Redwood

That time the US government almost attacked its own citizens

You mean northwood? Cause this sounds like what you're describing
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods

Oh i mean yeah, Northwood😂

It was a almost real life “No Russian”

Yeah, I understand communism is dangerous, but that's not the right thing to do JFK

It was so close to happening, in fact, I’m pretty sure the Cubans had actually been driving towards the University of Miami when Kennedy called it off

Also, did you know that the New Deal caused a 2nd recession

Huh, glad JFK got some morality last second

I think I knew that, I know that it has no verifyable evidence to fixing the Great Depression though, I might've known that

Woodrow Wilson gave us the Fed. Then ten years later the depression. Markets always corrected on their own prior to that. The real end of the depression was probably the war economy.

Woodrow Wilson is garbage