Message from @dastenhero

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2020-11-04 20:43:35 UTC  

Go to 20 min timestamps if you dont want to watch the whole video

2020-11-04 21:04:56 UTC  

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2020-11-04 21:05:11 UTC  

Made by me. Keep it up lads, we got this!

2020-11-04 21:09:47 UTC  

And yes, I've done research and no, the Bible does not condone homosexuality. The original translation says that man shall not lie down with man as he does a woman.

2020-11-04 21:10:49 UTC  

It's pretty blatant regardless of what version you read and honestly, as someone who struggles with it, it's not as if I have any motive for trying to find to condemn my own actions. There's no reason for me to go looking through a book in search of rules that deny what I want.

2020-11-04 21:11:06 UTC  

The problem is that what we want isn't always what's best for us and it isn't always what God intends

2020-11-04 21:11:46 UTC  

Ok but a lot of preachers state lust as undressing people with your eyes.

2020-11-04 21:12:36 UTC  

Lusting for someone is nearly the same (in gods eyes) as sleeping with them as stated by the pastor at my church and the pastor at many of the other churches I’ve been to

2020-11-04 21:12:48 UTC  

Lust is described in the Bible as having impure thoughts towards someone else

2020-11-04 21:12:54 UTC  

Which is part of the sin problem

2020-11-04 21:13:07 UTC  

But look

2020-11-04 21:13:17 UTC  

As we are all fallen creatures, we all have sin and have no chance at not sinning

2020-11-04 21:13:41 UTC  

The whole point of asking for forgiveness from a sin is to not repeat the same sin but god gives you as many chances as you ask to be forgiven of that sin

2020-11-04 21:14:19 UTC  

I’ve been taught growing up that you’re not truly sorry unless you try to not do it again. At some point your less saying it because you mean it

2020-11-04 21:14:31 UTC  

Jesus Christ said if they hate you they hated me first.

2020-11-04 21:15:04 UTC  

You can sow a seed but that's it its up to them to believe.

2020-11-04 21:15:10 UTC  

Lie down?

2020-11-04 21:16:36 UTC  

Lie down was fancy word for sex

2020-11-04 21:16:49 UTC  

I think it’s the other way around

2020-11-04 21:18:03 UTC  

And yes, I've read supposedly direct translations of the Hebrew texts and googled the words to make sure they meant what the site meant it says

2020-11-04 21:19:13 UTC  

People act like it's up for debate but it's really not
In order for you to interpret the gay passages differently, you'd have to reinterpret significant portions of the Bible if I remember correctly

2020-11-04 21:22:55 UTC  

For the Pope to say that it's not contradictory against the Bible tells me everything I need to know about the Catholic church right now to be honest

2020-11-04 21:23:16 UTC  

You can’t be inherently gay and Christian; and the pope isn’t Christian..

2020-11-04 21:23:24 UTC  

He's not

2020-11-04 21:23:41 UTC  

I think it's impossible to embrace the homosexual life style and be a Christian, yes.

2020-11-04 21:24:53 UTC  

That was my argument lol

2020-11-04 21:24:54 UTC  

Which is why I don't. The only reason I'm more open about what I struggle with these days is that our media constantly tells us that all "gay" people are a) Democratic b) bullied by Christians c) totally fine and proof that Christianity is evil

2020-11-04 21:24:59 UTC  

Yeah, lol

2020-11-04 21:25:29 UTC  

I was just saying there’s a difference between having gay thoughts and being 100% gay

2020-11-04 21:26:11 UTC  

Tbh, I was pretty blatant with how I talked and I've attended church since I was a baby. I was literally only fooling myself. Was I a bit of an outcast? Sure. Was I treated worse by liberals at college? Yes.

Exactly

2020-11-04 21:27:47 UTC  

They say science is on their side too and the reality is that the history of science isn't so clear cut with homosexuality and that it's essentially been decided instead of actually researched, mainly because we've taken God and spirituality out of the picture in favor of secularism

2020-11-04 21:30:07 UTC  

You can say that no one who partakes in homosexual behavior can change, but only if you ignore the fact that there hasn't been a whole lot of research into a lot of crucial areas of sexuality. We also have to keep into account that we as a nation are no longer Christian and that it makes sense that you wouldn't be able to find "gays who converted." Because there are so few actual Christians at this point and an even smaller pool of ones who may struggle with homosexuality, it's impossible to gauge whether or not it's possible to switch

2020-11-04 21:31:24 UTC  

Christianity is a straight and narrow path by its own admission, no extremely dark but slightly humorous pun intended

2020-11-04 21:31:46 UTC  

Of the Christians who DO try and seek change, many are unwilling to come forward with their story

2020-11-04 21:35:49 UTC  

Sexuality isn't real an issue until u hit puberty

2020-11-05 00:00:34 UTC  

1 Corinthians 6:9-10 Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God.

2020-11-05 01:36:24 UTC  

In the bible it says that in the end times, people will be lovers of evil. The left love evil. This is horrible

2020-11-05 03:09:14 UTC  

Pray for Trump!

2020-11-05 03:37:10 UTC  

We must remember that Christ told us not to worry about tomorrow.
We must give all of our worry and anxiety to Him.
This world is not our home. For He prepares a place for us in Heaven. Whether by rapture or earthly death, if we are saved, we shall be with Him in paradise. He will wipe away every tear.
We are in the world but not of the world.

2020-11-05 03:38:17 UTC  

I think even us Christians have gotten too caught up in this world, relying too much on man instead of God.

2020-11-05 03:40:13 UTC  

"Relying too much on man instead of God." That's what I needed to hear. Thank you!