Message from @isoboto
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> See, but that is *your* interpretation of how God works. And my point, is that everyone is free to have their *own* interpretations.
@TheSynical1 that can be dangerous though. For people who know what the Bible says - there is no interpretation. God lays out his standards for us very clearly in fact.
> I’m just saying, a book written by man, correct? And, man in inherently flawed, correct? So it would be egregious to think that the book wouldn’t be flawed. Especially after thousands of years of additions and redactions.
@TheSynical1 according to the preacher at my local school, he says God talked to man to transcribe the bible. It's definitely possible God's words got twisted down the line, therefore I think that's why a lot of preachers encourage people to go back to the original text
> @TheSynical1 you are comparing the human father to the Heavenly Father. Although the two are alike on many ways they are different in many ways also.
@kendikane88
How different can we be if we are made in his image. That’s like saying God is not flawed. Of course God is flawed! He obviously has flawed creations, if he didn’t, then humans would be perfect, correct
> @TheSynical1 according to the preacher at my local school, he says God talked to man to transcribe the bible. It's definitely possible God's words got twisted down the line, therefore I think that's why a lot of preachers encourage people to go back to the original text
@isoboto
But, that is your *preachers* interpretation. See what I mean?
No God is perfect, but he purposely made us flawed.
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> How different can we be if we are made in his image. That’s like saying God is not flawed. Of course God is flawed! He obviously has flawed creations, if he didn’t, then humans would be perfect, correct
@TheSynical1 not correct. God is perfect. Humans are flawed because of original sin.
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> No God is perfect, but he purposely made us flawed.
@Book that’s also not entirely true. He gave us free Will. We chose to sin.
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The video explains God you wanted answers he gives them
this is what I get for talking about stuff with no brain power levft
> @TheSynical1 not correct. God is perfect. Humans are flawed because of original sin.
@kendikane88
See, once again, interpretations. And I love all of your interpretations. That’s the point in this discussion 🙂
I'd watch Arcadeius's video
> I never understood the “FEAR GOD.” Nonsense. God is all loving, so why should I fear someone who loves me? He made me, correct? He knows who I am, how I think and what I feel. So I have no fear of God, I only return the love that is given to me.
@TheSynical1 okay. i may anger somebody but I've a conspiracy theory that God sets up Adam and Eve to fail. Lucifer deceived him, and so to curb rebellions he had the apple to test Adam and Eve
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> See, once again, interpretations. And I love all of your interpretations. That’s the point in this discussion 🙂
@TheSynical1 that’s not interpretation though. That is what the Bible says.
> @TheSynical1 okay. i may anger somebody but I've a conspiracy theory that God sets up Adam and Eve to fail. Lucifer deceived him, and so to curb rebellions he had the apple to test Adam and Eve
@isoboto I mean I don’t think you’re wrong. God is all knowing after all. It’s not like the serpent entered the garden on the sly without God knowing...
What the Bible says is, there is no interpretations meant to be on the Bible.
Ahhh, and if God gave us free will, could that not be a mistake on his behalf? If it wasn’t a mistake, then why would our choices exercised in that will anger Him so? The New Testament shows us a much angrier and vengeful God, doesn’t it? And the New Testament introduces a more Loving and caring God. So riddle me this, if God was perfect to begin with, why did God change? Perfect doesn’t need to change
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> But, that is your *preachers* interpretation. See what I mean?
@TheSynical1 i guess so, because each preacher interpreted it differently. then there would be no singular truth, right?
If he made us Perfect that'd be a pretty lame and boring life if you ask me.
It wouldn't be a great creation
> @TheSynical1 okay. i may anger somebody but I've a conspiracy theory that God sets up Adam and Eve to fail. Lucifer deceived him, and so to curb rebellions he had the apple to test Adam and Eve
@isoboto AND if you think about it on a deeper level God exists outside of the confines of time. So I’m his eyes everything that is going to happen has already happened. So basically we are living in the greatest story ever told and He has already written it.
> @TheSynical1 that’s not interpretation though. That is what the Bible says.
@kendikane88
See, but what it says is up for interpretation. And you, in your view are taking those words for direct meaning, while some could take it as allegory and find their own meaning. You see?
> @isoboto AND if you think about it on a deeper level God exists outside of the confines of time. So I’m his eyes everything that is going to happen has already happened. So basically we are living in the greatest story ever told and He has already written it.
@kendikane88 True that, God exists in a different dimesion
> @TheSynical1 i guess so, because each preacher interpreted it differently. then there would be no singular truth, right?
@isoboto
Exactly. If you go from church to church, each Preachers feelings will differ, even if just slightly
> Ahhh, and if God gave us free will, could that not be a mistake on his behalf? If it wasn’t a mistake, then why would our choices exercised in that will anger Him so? The New Testament shows us a much angrier and vengeful God, doesn’t it? And the New Testament introduces a more Loving and caring God. So riddle me this, if God was perfect to begin with, why did God change? Perfect doesn’t need to change
@TheSynical1 see my reply above about the greatest story.
> If he made us Perfect that'd be a pretty lame and boring life if you ask me.
@Book isn't the reason why we aren't perfect is because we ate the apple?
@TheSynical1 the truth of the Bible never changes I am sincerely trying to help you in that video its amazing at explaining much better than I could ever do
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> Exactly. If you go from church to church, each Preachers feelings will differ, even if just slightly
@TheSynical1 Preachers...that's why you need to trust in the bible and God
In fact I wish I had that gift
> @TheSynical1 Preachers...that's why you need to trust in the bible.
@Book amen to that!
> @TheSynical1 https://youtu.be/uZdv-TtiMkg
@ARCADEIUS
I don’t need to watch a video to convince me to care about God bud. I think I’ve made it clear that I return his love for me. Actually in those exact words.
> @isoboto AND if you think about it on a deeper level God exists outside of the confines of time. So I’m his eyes everything that is going to happen has already happened. So basically we are living in the greatest story ever told and He has already written it.
@kendikane88 maybe 2020 is the end of the story 👀 we're at the finale
> @kendikane88 maybe 2020 is the end of the story 👀 we're at the finale
@isoboto oh man! I wish!
lol
That sounds grea
Taken up into heaven from the rapture?
Hell yea!