But

a true Christian would follow everything of the Bible

and trust that Jesus would guide us to what is right, and help us understand

That's what we do.

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> But those same preachers trust the Bible. AND, probably know more about it’s content than all of us. So, you can forgo their interpretation and put your trust into the Book, which would be *your* interpretation. I mean, a Catholic Priest will tell you one way, a Protestant another way, and on and on. Does that make any of them wrong? No. Does that make any of them right? No. Because of the *free will* to interpret the Word as you see it.
@TheSynical1 I just disagree man. I think Catholics are wrong about a lot of things based on what I have read. And you can call it interpretation if you want but it clearly is not in a lot of places.

I talked about the Bible pretty much 24/7 for a living

I try to help people but it's up to them to accept it or not

You can lead a horse to Water right

> I talked about the Bible pretty much 24/7 for a living
@ARCADEIUS educate me! i like talking about christianity and religions. especially the "saving" process

i've so much questions on how one is saved

tell me your experience!

> @TheSynical1 but it's a very educational video that explains everything you keep asking
@ARCADEIUS

It explains it from someone else’s perspective yes, but that doesn’t mean that that has to be the way it is. We all have different perspectives. And it should *ALWAYS* be that way. Like I said, made in his image, and yet we are all completely different in body, mind and spirit. So would not the image, Word and perspective of God be different to us all? And would that not be the way it was intended considering?

> @kendikane88 do you think about hell a lot? i haven't reached that chapter in the bible, but i imagined hell in Buddhism sense (with 7 levels, boiling oil vats and demons whipping us, etc.)
@isoboto I don’t think about it a lot because I know that it doesn’t apply to me. I believe that people who end up in hell face an eternity of suffering. Some people think they will be “blotted out” into non existence. But I believe the lake of fire is a place of eternal suffering just as heaven is a place of eternal life

@isoboto my experience how I was saved

I was a rotten piece of s*** Thug on the streets Robin people banging women everyday doing drugs sellen crack that's what I was

> @TheSynical1 I just disagree man. I think Catholics are wrong about a lot of things based on what I have read. And you can call it interpretation if you want but it clearly is not in a lot of places.
@kendikane88

See, and you’re free to feel that way. Im sure some Catholics would love to tell you why you’re wrong. But that’s the beauty of it. There is no right or wrong as long as, in the end, you believe

If anyone is ever looking for good resources these are my two most trusted: got questions.org and their other site bibleref.com

I used to tell people I didn't believe God all the time I ain't care about it

In fact I would get drunk and tell people I'm the son of the devil

It was a lot of evil and wrong that I was doing that brought me to Jesus

> @isoboto I don’t think about it a lot because I know that it doesn’t apply to me. I believe that people who end up in hell face an eternity of suffering. Some people think they will be “blotted out” into non existence. But I believe the lake of fire is a place of eternal suffering just as heaven is a place of eternal life
@kendikane88 how do you know, though? people says they can be saved and therefore not go to hell, but don't you think god would have a system where people atone for their sins?

> @kendikane88
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> See, and you’re free to feel that way. Im sure some Catholics would love to tell you why you’re wrong. But that’s the beauty of it. There is no right or wrong as long as, in the end, you believe
@TheSynical1 have you read a lot of the Bible? I’m just curious because you seem reluctant to accept what is in it. So makes me curious if you really know what is in it. Don’t mean to sound rude there. I don’t know a better way to say that.

It wasn't until I was 19 years old with my ex girlfriend who was pregnant with my first child and I was playing a game called RPG Maker 3

> @kendikane88 how do you know, though? people says they can be saved and therefore not go to hell, but don't you think god would have a system where people atone for their sins?
@isoboto no I do not think god had a system for people to atone for their sins because Jesus already did that. And the way to go to heaven (and stay out of hell) is not to atone for our own sin but to accept Jesus’s death on the cross as the atonement for us.

The thing is I didn't even really think about the things that I was doing wrong I never cared about it I wiped my ass and I was done

> It was a lot of evil and wrong that I was doing that brought me to Jesus
@ARCADEIUS yeah. i've heard a lot of similar stories. when you're standing on the edge, the only thing keeping you from falling is faith on a higher being. and usually a person would pray more when they are in a hard place/time

> @TheSynical1 have you read a lot of the Bible? I’m just curious because you seem reluctant to accept what is in it. So makes me curious if you really know what is in it. Don’t mean to sound rude there. I don’t know a better way to say that.
@kendikane88

Not rude. I understand. And my grandfather was a minister, and without a father in my home, my father figure, if that helps make things clear. Your acceptance can differ from mine, and mine from yours and so on. And that is ultimately my point.

> @ARCADEIUS educate me! i like talking about christianity and religions. especially the "saving" process
@isoboto The saving process?

I can tell you plenty...

My dad was discharged in the military in early 2010, for medical reasons. They never gave his retirement and we had no where to go. We spent the next 6.5 months at my Grandparents who lived in Montana. And while I was a kid at the time, we were having stuff going on, at first was mild. We moved to Great Falls MT in 2011, and then in 2012 moved to Idaho...

And in short alot of crap went down in Idaho. A whole bunch of stuff that I can't quite get into for certain reasons, 1 being I don't know the whole story.

But for awhile we were going to this 24/7 Church, and one night. A Man, nobody knew him, NOBODY, we didn't know him. He came to my Dad, and I think asked to talk to him.

That man did some of the weirdest things we'd never seen before. He told my Dad, that he was gonna have my Dad spin around three times. Basically what he was doing was unravelling all of the bad stuff to let the good stuff come in. Out with the old, and in with the new. He told my Dad that in two weeks he was gonna get an EMAIL talking about an overseas Job.

At first my Dad didn't believe him...guess what happened? Two weeks later, he gets an email from Dubai...At first my Dad thought it was spam, but they somehow had found his old linkedin profile WITH extremely outdated resumes, and sent him an email through there. Finally Dad opened it...and it was legit. My mom and dad were just so flabbergasted they couldn't believed it.

We never saw that guy...ever again.

We spent the next several months preparing to go there. We moved to Dubai, and spend a wonderful 4 years there.

> @kendikane88
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> Not rude. I understand. And my grandfather was a minister, and without a father in my home, my father figure, if that helps make things clear. Your acceptance can differ from mine, and mine from yours and so on. And that is ultimately my point.
@TheSynical1 thanks for sharing your experience. So is your understanding of what is in the Bible mainly based on what you learned from your grandfather then?

> @isoboto no I do not think god had a system for people to atone for their sins because Jesus already did that. And the way to go to heaven (and stay out of hell) is not to atone for our own sin but to accept Jesus’s death on the cross as the atonement for us.
@kendikane88 lmao i think that's a reason why i can't ever be a christian. i simply can't accept letting jesus bear the burden of my sins. it feels wrong to me -- being unresponsible

> @TheSynical1 thanks for sharing your experience. So is your understanding of what is in the Bible mainly based on what you learned from your grandfather then?
@kendikane88

Well, my introduction was from him, my mother and church when I was younger. My viewpoints and understanding are solely my own. As yours should be too.

Well I was playing the game and I seen two shadows and I know it sounds unbelievable trust me I get it. But I was not able to move or speak and I tried using all my strength and my body was just not responding

> @kendikane88 lmao i think that's a reason why i can't ever be a christian. i simply can't accept letting jesus bear the burden of my sins. it feels wrong to me -- being unresponsible
@isoboto that is a spirit of pride. It’s hard to accept that you can not earn your own way.

Nothing I did or tried was able to help me I couldn't even wake her up cuz I tried to

All I said was God God God.... And I immediately was free

I woke her up I said I have to pray I have to pray

You know what else? When we were in Idaho we were really struggling, we had a house over our heads and were able to get food but still.

> @kendikane88
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> Well, my introduction was from him, my mother and church when I was younger. My viewpoints and understanding are solely my own. As yours should be too.
@TheSynical1 right but what I’m really asking is - is your opinion about the contents of the Bible based on the co tents of the Bible or based on what you’ve learned from others?

Going to food banks isn't fun. and I'm sure plenty of people in the poor/poverty knows that as well. But God blessed us, we moved to Dubai, and my Dad was making 10K usd per month. (Rich compared to the US and NOT Dubai tho)

And then she had a cross in the the other room that opens up.

Well I started to pray and I literally seen the image of Jesus. And it wasn't only me she seen it to