Message from @CoolGuard
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God created everything, including time, space, and matter. To do so, He would need to exist outside of time, space, and matter.
The first words in the Bible: "In the begging God created the heavens and the earth. "
"In the beginning" is time, "heaven" that's space, and "earth" is matter
Most Christians are loving and accepting no matter what.
Remember, Christians are still humans. We are not perfect and are not always the best ambassadors for Christ. This is why we need Jesus.
That’s true
That's also why we need to take our own time to read the Bible and learn about him. And go to others when we have questions
So if Jesus is the Son of God, He would also be like this, and know the future.
As for the claim that Jesus is the Son of God, He did several miracles to prove this. His Apostles believed Him to the extent that all but one of them died for refusing to say otherwise. And the last was exiled on an island
That’s also true
They had nothing to gain from lying. So they must've believed Him.
They witnessed many of the miracles Jesus did, such as Jesus Himself coming to see them after He had died, through a locked door, with the nail holes still in Him
I guess I can explain my stance on religion a little. I believe that there is a higher power, and that every religion basically has a personification of the universe as an eternal being and omniscient presence, and that all religions are right and wrong in their own ways but reflect the same thing no matter who they worshipped, that thing being the universe. I think some religions took it a step further because they needed more structure and security in their existence, and that’s fine, but I think all people need to find their own path of worship, as all worship goes to the same being and thus all worship is acceptable and good
I have 2 responses to that
If you compare religions, many of them have plenty of similarities as well as differences that can be explained by location and time period it was developed during, but that they all lead to the same place in the end
One, Christianity is the only one that your works don't matter whatsoever to your salvation. We are saved by grace through faith. As in, by the grace of God through faith in Jesus Christ
Trying to do works to get into Heaven (as with all the others) would be as if you robbed a bank, shot the guard, but gave all the money with some of your own to the needy. The judge will still judge you on your crimes
Now, that isn't to say what we do with our lives don't matter. Because it very much does.
Yes
But our works come after our salvation
We do good because we are saved, not to get saved
That’s a concept I’ve honestly only heard here
I guess the Christians I met were poor examples
Because I have never heard a Christian in my life say that
This is a very interesting conversation, thanks for taking part in it honestly :) this is pretty eye opening in some cases, and I will do more research into Christianity as a result as well as the other religions I’m looking into
They are likely what are called "False Converts"
This is when a person 'gets saved' either being not truly accepting the gift of salvation, or by being told false doctrine
Or it could be that they were just bad at teaching
True
Also, many of us Christians don't call ourselves a religion. Religion can be corrupted and false. We take Christianity as a relationship with our Savior Jesus Christ
We just refer to it as a relationship with God.
That’s pretty neat actually
I like that
Once you form that relationship, if you work to grow it, you can't lose it.
I wouldn't want to put my life in the hands of a corruptible religion that's maintained by man. I put my life in the hands of my creator, my savor, God and His Son Jesus
Jesus Himself handled this while here on earth. The ones who were religious and claimed to be for God, were the very ones who accused Him and sentenced Him to death
One analogy I've heard for the relationship with God is: If there is a girl (or a guy in your instance) that you like, and you want to have a relationship with them, they are probably going to make you work for it. It'll be up to you to grow that relationship with them.
It's a weird one, but I think it matches
That’s an interesting analogy
A different analogy I know, but less about the relationship part and more to salvation, is: You trust Jesus like you would a parachute. You know you're going to have to jump at some point (death) and the parachute is the only thing that will save you from hitting to ground and dying.
Jesus said we would face hardships and tribulations. That would be as wearing the parachute in the plane. It doesn't make the trip perfect at all, but it comforts you because you know that you'll be ok in the end
@Draconem_Dominus If you have any other questions or just want to talk more, feel free to @ me or even message me. I'm happy to talk and try to answer any questions
Okay i will; thanks :)
May I pray for you, if you don't mind?
I could either just pray or pray then type what I was praying here if that's alright
Feel free, I appreciate the meaning