Message from @MKSmash

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2020-11-08 19:29:04 UTC  

Because of how important she is, we hold her as the highest of the Saints

2020-11-08 19:29:15 UTC  

Ok @DrStrange77 that is very interesting but maybe this is me confusing a different religion but don't you have a level where women go or something like that?

2020-11-08 19:30:20 UTC  

Actually, we do not. We believe families are eternal and separating the them isn't something we believe in.

2020-11-08 19:32:53 UTC  

@MKSmash do you think the Pope or the priest is really the person who can go to God for your sins cause I believe jesus made it so we can come to him in prayer and ask for forgiveness

2020-11-08 19:34:15 UTC  

@DrStrange77 ok that's interesting thanks I thought there was in the celestial level a place for female virgins but maybe I'm confused

2020-11-08 19:35:03 UTC  

In confession, God acts through the priest to forgive sins

2020-11-08 19:38:28 UTC  

@Conminer47 No there isn't. In fact, getting married and having children is the main goal of many of us here on earth. In addition to faith and good works of course. Also, in addition to your statement to another user, we believe that you ask forgiveness in prayer. When you take the sacrament, the sins you repented of during the week are forgiven.

2020-11-08 19:38:42 UTC  

Well we believe when jesus died and the curtain was split that was a sign that we no longer needed a priest to go to god for us and that we can go to god ourselves but I would say the priest is still important but we see him as a person who is there to preach on the pulpit and not personally go to god for our sins but I do think he should pray for his church

2020-11-08 19:40:09 UTC  

Ah, I see. The priest does a lot more than just preach in Roman Catholicism

2020-11-08 19:41:58 UTC  

@Conminer47 what do you believe about Mary?

2020-11-08 19:46:35 UTC  

Every human is born with sin, including Mary. Including all the saints they are not sinless. Human are not perfect.@MKSmash

2020-11-08 19:47:01 UTC  

Jesus is the only person that is sinless.

2020-11-08 19:47:59 UTC  

If mary was sinless then she would be sufficient to pay for sins of humanity

2020-11-08 19:48:50 UTC  

That makes sense to me as well. While Mary was conceived sinless, she wasn't totally sinless. That's why people say The Virgin Mary i guess.

2020-11-08 19:49:39 UTC  

Wayt

2020-11-08 19:50:37 UTC  

There is no in between either your are sinless or sinful

2020-11-08 19:51:22 UTC  

Sure

2020-11-08 19:56:54 UTC  

I mean, of course Mary made mistakes. But she didn't have sex out of wedlock. Which I believe is a sin.

2020-11-08 19:57:28 UTC  

Divine adultery ecks dee

2020-11-08 20:01:01 UTC  

The inflation of Mary's role is an exercise of such theological ignorance it's not even laughable. It shows how little one can tell of the meaning of the Biblical texts they read, or of who they're listening to, like with Catholics. Mary had like two chapters of relevance of the Bible, and neither were as a *$%3ing cOrEdEmpTrIX or relevant figure. News flash, Jesus is the main character of the Bible. Just like all these catholic traditions, Mary was used to Christianize the mother goddess figure of many pagan religion, like how Saint Nicholas and our own holidays incorporated Norse Winter traditions.

2020-11-08 20:26:51 UTC  

Mary may have made mistakes, but not sins. She was perfect in that she was sinless. Only Jesus was enough to satisfy humanity, because He was sent by His Father for that purpose.

2020-11-08 20:27:44 UTC  

@DeButcher you are partially correct. All saints besides Mary sinned at some point or another.

2020-11-08 20:28:04 UTC  

Corny, I find that last paragraph so ridiculous I have no idea what to say

2020-11-08 20:29:34 UTC  

If you could tell me what these "norse winter traditions" are, that would be helpful

2020-11-08 20:30:53 UTC  

Once again, WE DO NOT WORSHIP MARY. We respect her for what she is and has done, she is no "mother goddess figure".

2020-11-08 20:34:41 UTC  

Catholic

2020-11-08 20:34:43 UTC  

<:Ben_Cringe:752572527120875520>

2020-11-08 20:36:39 UTC  

"We dont worship her but we're going to pray to her as if she was God. Lol silly protestant."

2020-11-08 20:38:13 UTC  

This is where we have to be careful with wording. We pray to her for intercession on her behalf to God

2020-11-08 20:38:49 UTC  

Lol ok

2020-11-08 20:38:58 UTC  

Because I'm sure it's too hard for God to handle all those prayers

2020-11-08 20:39:13 UTC  

Omnipotence has its limits!

2020-11-08 20:39:16 UTC  

😑

2020-11-08 20:40:11 UTC  

Jesus answered, “I am the Way and the Truth and the Life. No one comes to the Father except through Me. If you really know Me, you will know my Father as well. From now on, you do know Him and have seen Him.”
John 14:6‭-‬7 NIV
http://bible.com/111/jhn.14.6-7.NIV

2020-11-08 20:41:50 UTC  

🙄 of course omnipotence doesn't have its limits, and He sure doesn't struggle with prayers. In fact, asking Mary to intercess isn't necessary at all for praying to God. If you mean praying to Mary in reference to the Hail Mary prayer, that is just to honor her.

2020-11-08 20:42:28 UTC  

Fuck saints, all my homies realize God is the One and capable of all Miracles and Graces directly and absolutely

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/770707776070090794/775097934949253130/3pf5q6-1.jpg

2020-11-08 20:42:45 UTC  

Honor her for what?

2020-11-08 20:42:49 UTC  

Did she die on a cross?

2020-11-08 20:44:09 UTC  

Look at Catholic answers, they can help a lot with understanding the Faith.

2020-11-08 20:44:17 UTC  

How about you try listening to the Bible for once