Here Here.

Big win for the churches and synagogues

Reminder that God is good, Christ is King, and that Christ is Risen and that He is based and epic. 'Kay. Good night.

I like your style.

All right, people of the Discord. So there's an question I'm having with a Catholic teaching.

If sin is objectively wrong, how does one reconcile that to the teaching that one is not guilty of sin if one is acting on an inculpably erroneous conscience?

An IEC is a conscience that informs one wrongly. It judges good as bad and bad as good, in an extreme case. In its more common form, it easily *confuses* right and wrong.

I get that it's just on God's part to not impute guilt in the case of an unknowing misdemeanor, but is the axiom of the objectivity of evil suspended in this case? If so, why? You can't, like, do that. For God to suspend a transcendent moral principle would be against his nature, Him being all the omni's etc. He can't redefine the Natural Law because to do so would tantamount to admitting a mistake in the original Natural Law...

Maybe this is the wrong place for this lol

@Hibernian Raptor-Lord If I’m understanding the question right, you’re asking how someone who does evil things who doesn’t *know* they’re evil things isn’t guilty of sin?

Almost. I'm more tryna find out how to harmonise the notion of evil being objective and the teaching of guiltlessness when the evil is unknowingly committed. Surely there must be some guilt, Even very little?

Waaaaaait is it just that the guilt isn't counted but the sin is still a moral evil?

Gosh that's simple. Embarrassing lol

@Hibernian Raptor-Lord You don't need to feel embarrassed. At times one can overlook a detail when they are trying to decipher something important. I've done it before. All that matters is that you realized what you overlooked.

Sin is sin. No matter what you think is or is not sin. Even if you don't know something is a sin and you commit it, you are still sinning.

In my opinion, sin is not objective. It is defined by what the Bible says.

On the part concerning the committing of a morally objectionable act, the importance of the "ignorance" would likely need to be stressed. If one was never exposed to God, such as being raised in an atheistic household, certain things can be more readily forgiveable. It was "honest" ignorance. On the other hand, if the individual was totally aware of the moral wrongness of their actions, and simply conveniently turned a blind eye to it, arguing that " how could I have known it was wrong? Some Faith's say it is good, others as you it isn't". This is dishonest ignorance. It is akin to me refraining from going to the dentist do to me fearing bad news about an aching tooth. I cannot be honest in saying" I didn't know it was an issue".

Either way, knowing whether or not you are sinning doesn't stop God's judgement

Or better words his knowledge of it

I agree. But, the level of sin can be measured, to some extent,by ones knowledge ofthe sin being a sin.

All those who sinned without the law will also perish without the law, and all those who sinned under the law will be judged by the law.
Romans 2:12 HCSB
https://bible.com/bible/72/rom.2.12.HCSB

Romans chapter two verses 1-16

For better context

@Eli Fortress "You aren't anyone's brothers or sister in Christ" - you might want to read up on the teachings of Catholicism, and read up on the teachings of the bible (one in the same) and see how your statement goes against everything we are meant to be as Chrisitans.

My other statements are directly below yours in Meme-talk. I have a few that precede this one.

@Kit_DewStein Thank you for the link. It was very helpful.

Smh

Like @notJustin43 said it seems you just want to take a status and easy way to Christ. Seeing as you say that the hard way which is Catholisicm is a cult

@Raging Smurf Np, hope it helps :)

In other words, sin *is* objective? Sin being defined as a deviation by an individual from the Eternal Law.
Also, sin isn't sin "because the Bible says so." The Bible says that a particular action *is* a sin because it *already was.* The Bible is part of the Revealed Law which helps humanity, with its compromised (since Adam and Eve's fall) intellect, to discern moral evil.

Thu most sin of now is of old

Tbh*

Nothing has changed

it changes form, not nature.

Agreed.

No one undergoing a trial should say, “I am being tempted by God.” For God is not tempted by evil, and He Himself doesn’t tempt anyone. But each person is tempted when he is drawn away and enticed by his own evil desires. Then after desire has conceived, it gives birth to sin, and when sin is fully grown, it gives birth to death.
James 1:13‭-‬15 HCSB
https://bible.com/bible/72/jas.1.13-15.HCSB

Sorry for the random last giant picture ;; didn't mean to do that

I've been somewhat struggling with my connection with God.

Same