No

We are all sinner

*Everyone*?

Of course not

Yes

Even kids? Toddlers? Babies?

Babies in hell?

Well babies are different. They have no sense of right or wrong.

My God

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"I the LORD search the heart and test the mind, to give every man according to his ways, according to the fruit of his deeds.”

It's been scientifically proven that kids can have sense of right and wrong and mortality by like age 3, before then the ultimate *tabula rasa*. You can't punish that which has no understanding, which has no agency to commit sin, so I won't say that a stillborn baby is gonna be damned, but by God I can't tell you what happens to it. After three, maybe even two, what science shows and even what I've seen is that a child can determine what is right and wrong, which is just a secular way of saying "sinless and sinful". If a kid, even though its very rare and unlikely with modern medicine, were to die young, they would be covered if they were sinless and baptized. Just like every other human .

Natural law is subordinate to divine law, and as it is empirical science that backs my argument, I have zero theological issue espousing it.

Well was referring to maturity. Child innocence can be up to 7

Nah

Kids are being taught what to do and what not to do from age 1

It doesn't take long for that to set in, especially into a mushy skull

Age 3

Like

If you no longer poop in diapers

You can probably debate Plato

Me and my religion believe that children are not held accountable before 8

Mormon

https://youtu.be/46PXaJxzuDE

> Mormon
@corny🌽🌽 true and blue

Fake and cult

But not politically blue

If everyone who dies before 8 goes to heaven, then shouldn't killing someone before they turn 8 be merciful, as it never gives them the opportunity to go to hell. My old pastor John McCarther believes in the age of accountability but there was no evidence in the Bible that says that you are not held accountable before the age of 8. There is however evidence that you can be saved before you are born, like for instance how John the Baptist was convincted in the womb and jumped for joy when he heard about jesus.

Age of accountability is too high for most denominations to say the least. And 8 year old can most definitely make right and wrong decisions. And they know it. Though babies literally cannot sin as they are physically incapable. So what age does it start. This also begs the question, do mentally ill people go to hell? Like many serial killers see no problem with murder as they are mentally broken. They are unable to be fixed by humanity. Does god also give them a pass?

You are held accountable to sin when you have knowledge whats right and whats wrong

An inability to feel bad about the committing of heinous acts does not exempt you from being Damned. even the most morally decrepit of criminals understand that what they are doing is illegal, therefore wrong. Sociopaths, or those afflicted with psychopathy, are still perfectly able to understand the illegality of their actions.

To question whether said individuals are capable comprehending right and wrong, is to put them on a level similar to children, mental invalids, and domestic livestock. Meaning that they ought to be assigned caregivers or , in the case of the violently deranged, incarceration in a mental asylum.

For individuals who are genuinely mentally retarded or cognitively challenged, we as Christians and reasonable human beings

Who believe in the soul being the self, not the body, could not fault certain behavior by individuals who are trapped within the confines of their own body.

They are not any lesser than what we are simply because their flesh suit refuses to adhere to their commands. I did not think any less of Stephen Hawking because his body would not respond correctly. Nor do I think any lesser of a veteran who returns home bereft of limbs. one of my greatest fears is to suffer a debilitating brain injury that will render me trapped within my own body. only to be released by Death.

sometimes i wish god was an angry and vengeful god

mostly so he would purge us of the wicked

Most of the horrible things the media puts out is fear and rage porn, twisting our perception on how bad the world is.

The world is better now than what it was 100 years ago. If we held it to Heavans standard, of course it will always be found lacking. You can't compare a turd, no matter how well polished, to a diamond.

He is. He is also merciful and gracious to sinners who are full of rebellion and wickedness. The trouble is that we try to think about God in human terms and he is far greater than that. Our limited minds then demand things from God that do not make sense. That is why we are told to have faith and believe. Trusting in God means being obedient and the fruits of our faith are the real proof that He is for us, even when we are against Him in our hearts.

The world is not bad. Humans are sinful and choose that which causes them pain because they rebel against the law of God in their hearts and actions. The programming has a "formula" and we cannot change the outcomes of wrong behavior.