Message from @hyperiacob

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2020-12-20 07:21:07 UTC  

We know that some heroes were directly admitted into heaven. Some "heroes" went to "abraham's bossom"... I read something called "the harrowing of hell", it's where Jesus went in those three days before the resurrection.

2020-12-20 07:21:10 UTC  

This is false, God did create a perfect world

2020-12-20 07:21:21 UTC  

i don't think so. some gifts make them more happy than others

2020-12-20 07:21:35 UTC  

Do think purgatory is real?

2020-12-20 07:21:48 UTC  

yeah, no. it's not an apple

2020-12-20 07:22:01 UTC  

I know

2020-12-20 07:22:48 UTC  

We first have to establish one thing. God doesn’t have to abide by the same rules we do, that said, God created us for a purpose. What I mean by worship is that God, from what I know, created us to walk WITH Him. By fulfilling this purpose we are worshipping God

2020-12-20 07:22:49 UTC  

First of all satan/lucifer have seen the power and glory of God. He should have know that he should not mess with God. There was 0% chance for him to overthrow God. But pride got in his way.

2020-12-20 07:22:54 UTC  

Do you get me?

2020-12-20 07:23:43 UTC  

Ok, God created the world perfectly. Free will was also perfect. We chose to screw up the world. We agree on this right?

2020-12-20 07:23:49 UTC  

The concept does make sense...i haven't delved into it so much. From what i know it is an "in between" of heaven and hell.

2020-12-20 07:24:06 UTC  

but what about the angels? the angels are supposed to worship AND protect him

2020-12-20 07:24:42 UTC  

well. we'll be having a very different conversation if satan/lucifer's coup was successful

2020-12-20 07:24:43 UTC  

God doesn’t need protection. The angels were made to do Gods bidding. In this they worship Him. They also literally worship him

2020-12-20 07:24:56 UTC  

Ok cool

2020-12-20 07:25:16 UTC  

Well this disproves purgatory

“Then he cried and said, ‘Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus that he may dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.’ But Abraham said, ‘Son, remember that in your lifetime you received your good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things; but now he is comforted and you are tormented. And besides all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed, so that those who want to pass from here to you cannot, nor can those from there pass to us.’
Luke 16:24‭-‬26
Proof of no Purgatory

2020-12-20 07:25:35 UTC  

but then why would he create MORE worshippers? (and also, useless/redundant ones, seeing that we only worship him, and maybe do his bidding)

2020-12-20 07:26:19 UTC  

Because we serve a different purpose than the angels. We see this in the fact that we are the only beings in existence to be created in Gods image

2020-12-20 07:26:19 UTC  

Not really, satan was a fallen angel, having lesser "powers" than the One that created him.

2020-12-20 07:26:33 UTC  

Baptism is a symbol of being born again. Santification is an everyday process.

2020-12-20 07:26:45 UTC  

Why call it an apple i believe it siad God destroyed the forbidden treee

2020-12-20 07:26:47 UTC  

No, God took that tree away from earth, apples are still here

2020-12-20 07:27:07 UTC  

That's what I thought

2020-12-20 07:27:22 UTC  

Baptism is a public proclamation of faith modeled in the imagery of new birth

2020-12-20 07:27:32 UTC  

well, that's where my second complain come in 😂 i think it's weird god creates a bunch of clones of himself to worship him

2020-12-20 07:27:35 UTC  

Actually being born again only happens once

2020-12-20 07:27:40 UTC  

I haven't delved into the concept/doctrine to say either way. But I'll read up on it.

2020-12-20 07:27:43 UTC  

Yes but being baptized in holy spirit is different

2020-12-20 07:28:11 UTC  

i've no doubt about god's power. but. history is written by the victors.

2020-12-20 07:28:47 UTC  

i think Watermelon was still scrolling through old messages 😂

2020-12-20 07:28:48 UTC  

I'm not arguing

2020-12-20 07:28:53 UTC  

Im just saying

2020-12-20 07:28:59 UTC  

We aren’t clones of him either. If we were clones of Him we would also be clones of each other. Created in Gods image means that we were given things that his other creations were not. A lot of people truly believe, and the belief has basis, that we are the only beings God created that God actually loves

2020-12-20 07:29:48 UTC  

Sorry I may have ping the worng person to see if they know

2020-12-20 07:29:52 UTC  

We do have early christian documents on the proper formula of baptism...i saw something about "the didache" .

2020-12-20 07:29:57 UTC  

Yeah from what I know purgatory is pretty well disproved in the Bible HOWEVER I want to discuss this more with you because I have heard and read and thought something interesting on the matter

2020-12-20 07:30:07 UTC  

aren't we clones of each other? that's why god creates babel, meant to drive us apart

2020-12-20 07:30:37 UTC  

Right now I'm watching the lord of the rings lol

2020-12-20 07:30:42 UTC  

Jesus died for everyone. You don't have to feel guilty because Jesus died for your sins. Take a leap of faith and accept Him.

2020-12-20 07:31:02 UTC  

from different language to different religions and different regions that we live in

2020-12-20 07:31:10 UTC  

No, we created Babel. God told us to spread across the earth far before then and we were already diverse. What God did at Babel was simply scramble up our languages