Message from @hyperiacob
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We know that some heroes were directly admitted into heaven. Some "heroes" went to "abraham's bossom"... I read something called "the harrowing of hell", it's where Jesus went in those three days before the resurrection.
This is false, God did create a perfect world
i don't think so. some gifts make them more happy than others
Do think purgatory is real?
yeah, no. it's not an apple
I know
We first have to establish one thing. God doesn’t have to abide by the same rules we do, that said, God created us for a purpose. What I mean by worship is that God, from what I know, created us to walk WITH Him. By fulfilling this purpose we are worshipping God
First of all satan/lucifer have seen the power and glory of God. He should have know that he should not mess with God. There was 0% chance for him to overthrow God. But pride got in his way.
Do you get me?
Ok, God created the world perfectly. Free will was also perfect. We chose to screw up the world. We agree on this right?
The concept does make sense...i haven't delved into it so much. From what i know it is an "in between" of heaven and hell.
but what about the angels? the angels are supposed to worship AND protect him
well. we'll be having a very different conversation if satan/lucifer's coup was successful
God doesn’t need protection. The angels were made to do Gods bidding. In this they worship Him. They also literally worship him
Ok cool
Well this disproves purgatory
“Then he cried and said, ‘Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus that he may dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.’ But Abraham said, ‘Son, remember that in your lifetime you received your good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things; but now he is comforted and you are tormented. And besides all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed, so that those who want to pass from here to you cannot, nor can those from there pass to us.’
Luke 16:24â€-‬26
Proof of no Purgatory
but then why would he create MORE worshippers? (and also, useless/redundant ones, seeing that we only worship him, and maybe do his bidding)
Because we serve a different purpose than the angels. We see this in the fact that we are the only beings in existence to be created in Gods image
Not really, satan was a fallen angel, having lesser "powers" than the One that created him.
Baptism is a symbol of being born again. Santification is an everyday process.
No, God took that tree away from earth, apples are still here
That's what I thought
Baptism is a public proclamation of faith modeled in the imagery of new birth
well, that's where my second complain come in 😂 i think it's weird god creates a bunch of clones of himself to worship him
Actually being born again only happens once
I haven't delved into the concept/doctrine to say either way. But I'll read up on it.
Yes but being baptized in holy spirit is different
i've no doubt about god's power. but. history is written by the victors.
i think Watermelon was still scrolling through old messages 😂
I'm not arguing
Im just saying
We aren’t clones of him either. If we were clones of Him we would also be clones of each other. Created in Gods image means that we were given things that his other creations were not. A lot of people truly believe, and the belief has basis, that we are the only beings God created that God actually loves
Sorry I may have ping the worng person to see if they know
We do have early christian documents on the proper formula of baptism...i saw something about "the didache" .
Yeah from what I know purgatory is pretty well disproved in the Bible HOWEVER I want to discuss this more with you because I have heard and read and thought something interesting on the matter
aren't we clones of each other? that's why god creates babel, meant to drive us apart
Right now I'm watching the lord of the rings lol
Jesus died for everyone. You don't have to feel guilty because Jesus died for your sins. Take a leap of faith and accept Him.
from different language to different religions and different regions that we live in
No, we created Babel. God told us to spread across the earth far before then and we were already diverse. What God did at Babel was simply scramble up our languages