Message from @LuckyPuffy

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2021-01-02 19:02:44 UTC  

I’ve noticed that every religion believes in a Supreme God.

2021-01-02 19:02:57 UTC  

Christianity believes in God, Islam in Allah, and so on.

2021-01-02 19:03:09 UTC  

Well not all of then , those are just the Abrahamic

2021-01-02 19:03:10 UTC  

Standard human morals that God gave us when he created us.

2021-01-02 19:03:32 UTC  

You can go into the jungles or bushes of Africa and find tribes that believe in a god--it is built into our nature--but you have to be educated to be an atheist, to deny God exists.

2021-01-02 19:03:53 UTC  

We all know it's wrong to rape somebody, but what gave us that sense that it's wrong?

2021-01-02 19:03:53 UTC  

The question is--which one is the right one

2021-01-02 19:04:02 UTC  

And that right one is the God of the Bible

2021-01-02 19:04:03 UTC  

The Bible: “Humans were made from dust.”
Atheist: “I don’t believe in this nonsense!”
Some scientist: “We’re all made of star dust!”
Atheist: “SO TRUE!!!!!!”

2021-01-02 19:04:05 UTC  

I belive morals evolved as a social construct that is usefull for living in a society, God is just a way of representing those morals and trying to explain then , we dont need to explain morals they just are

2021-01-02 19:04:34 UTC  

Well, that belief of social construct is wrong

2021-01-02 19:04:36 UTC  

Like if a society find it moral to kill that this society is going to die

2021-01-02 19:04:49 UTC  

The only societies that remain are those who find killing bad

2021-01-02 19:05:11 UTC  

So you are justifying cannibal socieities--canniabls among themselves say it's not immoral to kill and eat a person...

2021-01-02 19:05:19 UTC  

thats abortion in a nut shell

2021-01-02 19:05:27 UTC  

Right, because morality is relative, it’s a social construct...

2021-01-02 19:05:28 UTC  

How many if those prosper?

2021-01-02 19:05:32 UTC  

There are still cannibal societies today--so it's a weak argument

2021-01-02 19:05:42 UTC  

So, your saying that abortion is moral?

2021-01-02 19:05:53 UTC  

Like tell me one big society that belives in canibalism

2021-01-02 19:06:03 UTC  

“A fetus isn’t a real person!!!1111!!!!!” - probably a progressive liberal

2021-01-02 19:06:12 UTC  

@ELIS314 See, though, you're arguing against your argument

2021-01-02 19:06:28 UTC  

How ? I just say that you dont need God to be moral

2021-01-02 19:06:51 UTC  

And that morals are necessary for a prosperous society

2021-01-02 19:07:09 UTC  

Yes, but you are saying society constructs their morals--a cannibal society constructs their morals--and then you go switching criteria to say are they a big society. That's a different criterium

2021-01-02 19:07:09 UTC  

Hold on, I had a quote...

2021-01-02 19:07:31 UTC  

There are currently many prosperous societies with their own twisted and evil morals

2021-01-02 19:08:12 UTC  

@ELIS314 Yes, prosperity does not equate right morals--you literally argued against that earlier when you were talking about socialism and communism.

2021-01-02 19:08:14 UTC  

> A little philosophy inclineth man's mind to atheism, but depth in philosophy bringeth men's minds about to religion. - Sir Francis Bacon

2021-01-02 19:08:15 UTC  

Well every society if that kind falls , that is why the roman empire fallen

2021-01-02 19:08:36 UTC  

Let me blow your mind here then if it's about longevity

2021-01-02 19:08:49 UTC  

Communism has never worked, and it's only about 150 years old.

2021-01-02 19:08:58 UTC  

Capitalism is not all that old either necessarily...

2021-01-02 19:09:01 UTC  

Every society falls no matter what. It doesn't matter what their morals are

2021-01-02 19:09:02 UTC  

I am an anarchist

2021-01-02 19:09:09 UTC  

Not a communist

2021-01-02 19:09:16 UTC  

But Judeo-Christian ideals and beliefs go back to the beginning of time.

2021-01-02 19:10:01 UTC  

Well there have been societies before that wich had similar morals but that argument doesn't work because most probably you dont belive there were societies before christianity

2021-01-02 19:10:07 UTC  

Judaism is the oldest religion.

2021-01-02 19:10:09 UTC  

> "The atheists are for the most part impudent and misguided scholars who reason badly who, not being able to understand the Creation, the origin of evil, and other difficulties, have recourse to the hypothesis the eternity of things and of inevitability." - Voltaire

2021-01-02 19:12:05 UTC  

Well take it this way 1) belive isn't about argument, you either belive or not 2) I do not belive in supernatural forces 3) I am not going to try and believe because that would be disrespectful towards people who belive , You cant try beliving you either do or dont and if I "tried" it would be pretend