Message from @LuckyPuffy
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I’ve noticed that every religion believes in a Supreme God.
Christianity believes in God, Islam in Allah, and so on.
Well not all of then , those are just the Abrahamic
Standard human morals that God gave us when he created us.
You can go into the jungles or bushes of Africa and find tribes that believe in a god--it is built into our nature--but you have to be educated to be an atheist, to deny God exists.
We all know it's wrong to rape somebody, but what gave us that sense that it's wrong?
The question is--which one is the right one
And that right one is the God of the Bible
The Bible: “Humans were made from dust.”
Atheist: “I don’t believe in this nonsense!”
Some scientist: “We’re all made of star dust!”
Atheist: “SO TRUE!!!!!!”
I belive morals evolved as a social construct that is usefull for living in a society, God is just a way of representing those morals and trying to explain then , we dont need to explain morals they just are
Well, that belief of social construct is wrong
Like if a society find it moral to kill that this society is going to die
The only societies that remain are those who find killing bad
So you are justifying cannibal socieities--canniabls among themselves say it's not immoral to kill and eat a person...
thats abortion in a nut shell
Right, because morality is relative, it’s a social construct...
How many if those prosper?
There are still cannibal societies today--so it's a weak argument
So, your saying that abortion is moral?
Like tell me one big society that belives in canibalism
How ? I just say that you dont need God to be moral
And that morals are necessary for a prosperous society
Yes, but you are saying society constructs their morals--a cannibal society constructs their morals--and then you go switching criteria to say are they a big society. That's a different criterium
Hold on, I had a quote...
There are currently many prosperous societies with their own twisted and evil morals
@ELIS314 Yes, prosperity does not equate right morals--you literally argued against that earlier when you were talking about socialism and communism.
> A little philosophy inclineth man's mind to atheism, but depth in philosophy bringeth men's minds about to religion. - Sir Francis Bacon
Well every society if that kind falls , that is why the roman empire fallen
Let me blow your mind here then if it's about longevity
Communism has never worked, and it's only about 150 years old.
Capitalism is not all that old either necessarily...
Every society falls no matter what. It doesn't matter what their morals are
I am an anarchist
Not a communist
But Judeo-Christian ideals and beliefs go back to the beginning of time.
Well there have been societies before that wich had similar morals but that argument doesn't work because most probably you dont belive there were societies before christianity
Judaism is the oldest religion.
> "The atheists are for the most part impudent and misguided scholars who reason badly who, not being able to understand the Creation, the origin of evil, and other difficulties, have recourse to the hypothesis the eternity of things and of inevitability." - Voltaire
Well take it this way 1) belive isn't about argument, you either belive or not 2) I do not belive in supernatural forces 3) I am not going to try and believe because that would be disrespectful towards people who belive , You cant try beliving you either do or dont and if I "tried" it would be pretend