Message from @LuckyPuffy

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2021-01-02 18:58:56 UTC  

No, there's no reason for morals if God doesn't exist. Why be moral??

2021-01-02 18:58:57 UTC  

Isnt god everywhere?

2021-01-02 18:58:57 UTC  

God isn’t everything, God is God.

2021-01-02 18:59:09 UTC  

Because that is how I live a good life

2021-01-02 18:59:28 UTC  

If I am nice to people and build a good world were everyone is good to each other I win

2021-01-02 18:59:29 UTC  

Yeah, why should I be moral if there’s no objective morality? Morality is subjective, right???? Rape is right just because it is moral for the rapist, right?????!!! Haha!!!!

2021-01-02 18:59:52 UTC  

It is moral for me to kill the rapist then 🙂

2021-01-02 18:59:56 UTC  

God is fully capable of being anywhere, but He isn't everything. If He was, He would be really wicked, for He would be every wicked, monstrous person too.

2021-01-02 19:00:36 UTC  

If God is everything, then I’m God. You’re God. Everyone’s God. May anyone agree this is morally wrong?

2021-01-02 19:00:45 UTC  

You're not getting it about morals. If God doesn't exist, there would be no morals. There must be a source of morals, a standard, otherwise you can literally go make up anything and say it's moral. That's what the Democrats do.

2021-01-02 19:01:13 UTC  

I said morels aren't real but they are usefull, if I live in a vilige with other people we have rules of what we can do to live together, we make morals and agree on them

2021-01-02 19:01:16 UTC  

Exactly! God helps us set a standard for what’s right and wrong.

2021-01-02 19:01:18 UTC  

I dont need God for that

2021-01-02 19:01:40 UTC  

It's not that God helps us set a standard, He gives the standard in His word, the Bible.

2021-01-02 19:01:51 UTC  

Every human has bias, every human is slightly evil, no matter how good they are. God is objective and perfect.

2021-01-02 19:01:56 UTC  

Through it then we discern what's right and wrong, good or bad.

2021-01-02 19:02:10 UTC  

Then how can you explain civilisations with other religions having similar morals ?

2021-01-02 19:02:18 UTC  

we are all dastardly wicked not just slightly

2021-01-02 19:02:28 UTC  

@ELIS314 Similar origin--back to the family of Noah

2021-01-02 19:02:44 UTC  

I’ve noticed that every religion believes in a Supreme God.

2021-01-02 19:02:57 UTC  

Christianity believes in God, Islam in Allah, and so on.

2021-01-02 19:03:09 UTC  

Well not all of then , those are just the Abrahamic

2021-01-02 19:03:10 UTC  

Standard human morals that God gave us when he created us.

2021-01-02 19:03:32 UTC  

You can go into the jungles or bushes of Africa and find tribes that believe in a god--it is built into our nature--but you have to be educated to be an atheist, to deny God exists.

2021-01-02 19:03:53 UTC  

We all know it's wrong to rape somebody, but what gave us that sense that it's wrong?

2021-01-02 19:03:53 UTC  

The question is--which one is the right one

2021-01-02 19:04:02 UTC  

And that right one is the God of the Bible

2021-01-02 19:04:03 UTC  

The Bible: “Humans were made from dust.”
Atheist: “I don’t believe in this nonsense!”
Some scientist: “We’re all made of star dust!”
Atheist: “SO TRUE!!!!!!”

2021-01-02 19:04:05 UTC  

I belive morals evolved as a social construct that is usefull for living in a society, God is just a way of representing those morals and trying to explain then , we dont need to explain morals they just are

2021-01-02 19:04:34 UTC  

Well, that belief of social construct is wrong

2021-01-02 19:04:36 UTC  

Like if a society find it moral to kill that this society is going to die

2021-01-02 19:04:49 UTC  

The only societies that remain are those who find killing bad

2021-01-02 19:05:11 UTC  

So you are justifying cannibal socieities--canniabls among themselves say it's not immoral to kill and eat a person...

2021-01-02 19:05:19 UTC  

thats abortion in a nut shell

2021-01-02 19:05:27 UTC  

Right, because morality is relative, it’s a social construct...

2021-01-02 19:05:28 UTC  

How many if those prosper?

2021-01-02 19:05:32 UTC  

There are still cannibal societies today--so it's a weak argument

2021-01-02 19:05:42 UTC  

So, your saying that abortion is moral?

2021-01-02 19:05:53 UTC  

Like tell me one big society that belives in canibalism

2021-01-02 19:06:03 UTC  

“A fetus isn’t a real person!!!1111!!!!!” - probably a progressive liberal

2021-01-02 19:06:12 UTC  

@ELIS314 See, though, you're arguing against your argument