Message from @LuckyPuffy
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No, there's no reason for morals if God doesn't exist. Why be moral??
Isnt god everywhere?
God isn’t everything, God is God.
Because that is how I live a good life
If I am nice to people and build a good world were everyone is good to each other I win
Yeah, why should I be moral if there’s no objective morality? Morality is subjective, right???? Rape is right just because it is moral for the rapist, right?????!!! Haha!!!!
It is moral for me to kill the rapist then 🙂
God is fully capable of being anywhere, but He isn't everything. If He was, He would be really wicked, for He would be every wicked, monstrous person too.
If God is everything, then I’m God. You’re God. Everyone’s God. May anyone agree this is morally wrong?
You're not getting it about morals. If God doesn't exist, there would be no morals. There must be a source of morals, a standard, otherwise you can literally go make up anything and say it's moral. That's what the Democrats do.
I said morels aren't real but they are usefull, if I live in a vilige with other people we have rules of what we can do to live together, we make morals and agree on them
Exactly! God helps us set a standard for what’s right and wrong.
I dont need God for that
It's not that God helps us set a standard, He gives the standard in His word, the Bible.
Every human has bias, every human is slightly evil, no matter how good they are. God is objective and perfect.
Through it then we discern what's right and wrong, good or bad.
Then how can you explain civilisations with other religions having similar morals ?
we are all dastardly wicked not just slightly
I’ve noticed that every religion believes in a Supreme God.
Well not all of then , those are just the Abrahamic
Standard human morals that God gave us when he created us.
You can go into the jungles or bushes of Africa and find tribes that believe in a god--it is built into our nature--but you have to be educated to be an atheist, to deny God exists.
We all know it's wrong to rape somebody, but what gave us that sense that it's wrong?
The question is--which one is the right one
And that right one is the God of the Bible
The Bible: “Humans were made from dust.”
Atheist: “I don’t believe in this nonsense!”
Some scientist: “We’re all made of star dust!”
Atheist: “SO TRUE!!!!!!”
I belive morals evolved as a social construct that is usefull for living in a society, God is just a way of representing those morals and trying to explain then , we dont need to explain morals they just are
Well, that belief of social construct is wrong
Like if a society find it moral to kill that this society is going to die
The only societies that remain are those who find killing bad
So you are justifying cannibal socieities--canniabls among themselves say it's not immoral to kill and eat a person...
thats abortion in a nut shell
Right, because morality is relative, it’s a social construct...
How many if those prosper?
There are still cannibal societies today--so it's a weak argument
So, your saying that abortion is moral?
Like tell me one big society that belives in canibalism
“A fetus isn’t a real person!!!1111!!!!!” - probably a progressive liberal