Message from @ELIS314

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2021-01-02 18:57:05 UTC  

"Understing God is understand the natural world and its inner mechanism" the fact that the bible says god is everything and every is being God is the world and not some supernatural being , if you do bad the world will punish you by becoming worse (aka the world itself will be hell)

2021-01-02 18:57:18 UTC  

Wait, it’s a fairytale made up by the liberal agenda? @DannyNC1

2021-01-02 18:57:55 UTC  

It's a fairy tale made up by people that have longed to try and explain away God so they won't feel so convicted about their sins.

2021-01-02 18:58:06 UTC  

That's long before 'liberal agendas'

2021-01-02 18:58:16 UTC  

If you need God to be moral that you arent moral

2021-01-02 18:58:24 UTC  

Ah, that’s the part that got me back to Christianity. When there’s no God to judge your sins, you can do whatever you want.

2021-01-02 18:58:27 UTC  

If God doesn't exist you should still be moral lol

2021-01-02 18:58:30 UTC  

Would you agree?

2021-01-02 18:58:34 UTC  

@ELIS314 The Bible does not say 'God is everything and every being is God'

2021-01-02 18:58:43 UTC  

God is love

2021-01-02 18:58:56 UTC  

No, there's no reason for morals if God doesn't exist. Why be moral??

2021-01-02 18:58:57 UTC  

Isnt god everywhere?

2021-01-02 18:58:57 UTC  

God isn’t everything, God is God.

2021-01-02 18:59:09 UTC  

Because that is how I live a good life

2021-01-02 18:59:28 UTC  

If I am nice to people and build a good world were everyone is good to each other I win

2021-01-02 18:59:29 UTC  

Yeah, why should I be moral if there’s no objective morality? Morality is subjective, right???? Rape is right just because it is moral for the rapist, right?????!!! Haha!!!!

2021-01-02 18:59:52 UTC  

It is moral for me to kill the rapist then 🙂

2021-01-02 18:59:56 UTC  

God is fully capable of being anywhere, but He isn't everything. If He was, He would be really wicked, for He would be every wicked, monstrous person too.

2021-01-02 19:00:36 UTC  

If God is everything, then I’m God. You’re God. Everyone’s God. May anyone agree this is morally wrong?

2021-01-02 19:00:45 UTC  

You're not getting it about morals. If God doesn't exist, there would be no morals. There must be a source of morals, a standard, otherwise you can literally go make up anything and say it's moral. That's what the Democrats do.

2021-01-02 19:01:13 UTC  

I said morels aren't real but they are usefull, if I live in a vilige with other people we have rules of what we can do to live together, we make morals and agree on them

2021-01-02 19:01:16 UTC  

Exactly! God helps us set a standard for what’s right and wrong.

2021-01-02 19:01:18 UTC  

I dont need God for that

2021-01-02 19:01:40 UTC  

It's not that God helps us set a standard, He gives the standard in His word, the Bible.

2021-01-02 19:01:51 UTC  

Every human has bias, every human is slightly evil, no matter how good they are. God is objective and perfect.

2021-01-02 19:01:56 UTC  

Through it then we discern what's right and wrong, good or bad.

2021-01-02 19:02:10 UTC  

Then how can you explain civilisations with other religions having similar morals ?

2021-01-02 19:02:18 UTC  

we are all dastardly wicked not just slightly

2021-01-02 19:02:28 UTC  

@ELIS314 Similar origin--back to the family of Noah

2021-01-02 19:02:44 UTC  

I’ve noticed that every religion believes in a Supreme God.

2021-01-02 19:02:57 UTC  

Christianity believes in God, Islam in Allah, and so on.

2021-01-02 19:03:09 UTC  

Well not all of then , those are just the Abrahamic

2021-01-02 19:03:10 UTC  

Standard human morals that God gave us when he created us.

2021-01-02 19:03:32 UTC  

You can go into the jungles or bushes of Africa and find tribes that believe in a god--it is built into our nature--but you have to be educated to be an atheist, to deny God exists.

2021-01-02 19:03:53 UTC  

We all know it's wrong to rape somebody, but what gave us that sense that it's wrong?

2021-01-02 19:03:53 UTC  

The question is--which one is the right one

2021-01-02 19:04:02 UTC  

And that right one is the God of the Bible

2021-01-02 19:04:03 UTC  

The Bible: “Humans were made from dust.”
Atheist: “I don’t believe in this nonsense!”
Some scientist: “We’re all made of star dust!”
Atheist: “SO TRUE!!!!!!”

2021-01-02 19:04:05 UTC  

I belive morals evolved as a social construct that is usefull for living in a society, God is just a way of representing those morals and trying to explain then , we dont need to explain morals they just are

2021-01-02 19:04:34 UTC  

Well, that belief of social construct is wrong

2021-01-02 19:04:36 UTC  

Like if a society find it moral to kill that this society is going to die