Message from @LiveFreeOrPi

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2020-10-22 01:46:08 UTC  

So WWIII is definitely gonna have a lot to do with Asia

2020-10-22 01:47:24 UTC  

Hopefully no nukes

2020-10-22 01:48:48 UTC  

That would be up to China, Russia, and North Korea, western powers wouldn't do that unless it was absolutely necessary, and even then we'd do what we did with Hiroshima and Nagasaki, target military cities and warn the people of what's coming

2020-10-22 01:49:49 UTC  

Yes

2020-10-22 01:50:19 UTC  

Is Russia more allied with the US or China?

2020-10-22 01:50:56 UTC  

I don’t think this is the best place to discuss this

2020-10-22 01:51:07 UTC  

What channel should we use?

2020-10-22 01:51:55 UTC  

Good question... I can't think of what channel this would go in

2020-10-22 01:52:09 UTC  

Maybe <#722683196373991506>?

2020-10-22 02:00:24 UTC  

Yep definitely <#722683196373991506>

2020-10-22 02:03:47 UTC  

Yay I was right!

2020-10-22 07:54:34 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/762720224268910632/768744090824605696/unknown.png

2020-10-22 09:35:27 UTC  

😨

2020-10-22 14:31:25 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/762720224268910632/768843961451675698/nolan_chart.png

2020-10-22 14:31:42 UTC  

Yes?

2020-10-22 14:32:01 UTC  

just following up on your exploration of libertarianism and where it falls on the political spectrum

2020-10-22 14:32:01 UTC  

Yes

2020-10-22 14:32:09 UTC  

Ohh

2020-10-22 14:32:15 UTC  

the political landscape is not a linear scale

2020-10-22 14:32:18 UTC  

it is 2 dimensional

2020-10-22 14:32:21 UTC  

Have y’all tooken the political compass quiz?

2020-10-22 14:32:25 UTC  

No

2020-10-22 14:32:31 UTC  

Ya mean 3 dimensional

2020-10-22 14:32:41 UTC  

the up down axis is basically 0% government at the top and 100% government at the bottom

2020-10-22 14:32:44 UTC  

Supposedly tells you where you are in your political views

2020-10-22 14:32:44 UTC  

We have a <#727616207619883128> chat

2020-10-22 14:32:57 UTC  

the left right axis is arbitrary and depends on what population, where, when

2020-10-22 14:33:08 UTC  

Ok

2020-10-22 14:33:16 UTC  

I have to go

2020-10-22 14:33:23 UTC  

Ty for the chart

2020-10-22 14:33:29 UTC  

example, Kennedy democrats would have been in favor of several things that Trump republicans are in favor of, so it's the same nation, different time period

2020-10-22 14:34:33 UTC  

if you have 100% liberty and 0% government, then you can't move left or right of center because that would require using some sort of government to enforce that preference

2020-10-22 14:35:07 UTC  

if you have 100% government and 0% liberty (communism, aka statism) then there are no preferences, only what you're allowed to do/have/say/wear/eat/etc

2020-10-22 14:35:36 UTC  

look up The Nolan Chart on google for tests/more info

2020-10-22 14:37:19 UTC  

also, I do not give leftists the term "liberal" anymore, as their bent is not predominantly towards liberty as a classical liberal (e.g. Thomas Jefferson) was

2020-10-22 14:38:23 UTC  

I would suggest that, unlike the chart I posted above, the shape has shifted into more of a rectangle than a square, with the right being higher and closer to libertarians, while the left has shifted down and is closer to statists. This makes sense, as generally the right is in favor of less government and the left is in favor of more government

2020-10-22 14:39:00 UTC  

this is why you see things like the liberty movement and the tea party within the right side of the aisle, whereas you see socialists like AOC and Bernie on the left

2020-10-22 14:43:52 UTC  

@LiveFreeOrPi the conservatives of today are the liberals of yesterday.

2020-10-22 14:51:22 UTC  

I think the chart has shifted to this now: