Yes?

just following up on your exploration of libertarianism and where it falls on the political spectrum

Yes

Ohh

the political landscape is not a linear scale

it is 2 dimensional

Have y’all tooken the political compass quiz?

No

Ya mean 3 dimensional

the up down axis is basically 0% government at the top and 100% government at the bottom

Supposedly tells you where you are in your political views

We have a <#727616207619883128> chat

the left right axis is arbitrary and depends on what population, where, when

Ok

I have to go

Ty for the chart

example, Kennedy democrats would have been in favor of several things that Trump republicans are in favor of, so it's the same nation, different time period

if you have 100% liberty and 0% government, then you can't move left or right of center because that would require using some sort of government to enforce that preference

if you have 100% government and 0% liberty (communism, aka statism) then there are no preferences, only what you're allowed to do/have/say/wear/eat/etc

look up The Nolan Chart on google for tests/more info

also, I do not give leftists the term "liberal" anymore, as their bent is not predominantly towards liberty as a classical liberal (e.g. Thomas Jefferson) was

I would suggest that, unlike the chart I posted above, the shape has shifted into more of a rectangle than a square, with the right being higher and closer to libertarians, while the left has shifted down and is closer to statists. This makes sense, as generally the right is in favor of less government and the left is in favor of more government

this is why you see things like the liberty movement and the tea party within the right side of the aisle, whereas you see socialists like AOC and Bernie on the left

@LiveFreeOrPi the conservatives of today are the liberals of yesterday.

I think the chart has shifted to this now:

political compasses are generally shitty

the Nolan Chart does completely break people free from the false "left right" paradigm that they are led to believe is the political spectrum

it's useful in some ways

the "left vs right" is in reference to economics

as I said, I think the square diagram isn't exactly right

capitalism vs socialism

no, that's what the up down axis represents

the top is capitalism the bottom is communism

No?

free market economics is capitalism...no central control...that's libertarian society

left vs right is economics

no it's not

yes it is

it literally is

communism is at the bottom of the chart I posted, and libertarianism is at the top of the chart I posted