Message from @isoboto

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2020-11-16 17:17:12 UTC  

They endorse Communism, yes

2020-11-16 17:17:17 UTC  

they all want to establish a stateless, moneyless and classless society?

2020-11-16 17:17:29 UTC  

"Equity" more like starvation

2020-11-16 17:17:32 UTC  

...

2020-11-16 17:17:44 UTC  

That's Communism

2020-11-16 17:18:39 UTC  

> My school has a Black Lives Matter sign infront of the library (Representing a fist), whenever I pass it, I flip the birdie at it.
@JudgeAzule i graduated (thank god) and in canada nobody is renaming stuffs yet so our wokeness has yet to reach the peak 😬 matter of time, tho. some streets downtown were submitted to be change into BLM street

2020-11-16 17:19:03 UTC  

defining communism as exclusively equity is... Interesting at best and intellectually dishonest at worst

2020-11-16 17:25:51 UTC  

> they all want to establish a stateless, moneyless and classless society?
@米饭和面条 1. technically, you can't function in a stateless society -- you will still have a government controlling and distributing the stuff (because otherwise who will enforce the rules?). the government role may be reduced to something smaller into local leaders/government -- but historically that's not what happens. but. i digress.

2. secondly, you can't eliminate money or class. money is deemed a value of labour -- you'll have to go back pure on trading raw objects or pure labour, ie. a log of wood for some rice, or a log of wood for 1 hour of service. Which then brings the question of whether you can afford to trade it or provide the desirable goods/service. some simply do not have the ability to do that.

3. a classless society is also impossible. again, historically speaking -- greed is a real monster and states that operate under "communism" still have the richest people being so wealthy far beyond the lowly grunts. it also brings to mind, what separate the classes? and how do we help people advance from the lower class to the next?

2020-11-16 17:26:15 UTC  

aye

2020-11-16 17:26:42 UTC  

i've talked to a decent bit of commies and they say stateless means there is still a government but there just aren't any borders

2020-11-16 17:27:46 UTC  

> i've talked to a decent bit of commies and they say stateless means there is still a government but there just aren't any borders
@米饭和面条 ha. i've a marxist libertarian friend once and he boasted how marxism is a wide range of "ideas" and can be interpreting differently.

also, can you explain what do they mean by "no border"? no country border?

2020-11-16 17:28:03 UTC  

idk

2020-11-16 17:28:22 UTC  

yeah i think it's just no country borders

2020-11-16 17:28:23 UTC  

lmao shouldn't you have ask them to expand on that

2020-11-16 17:28:36 UTC  

you think I care about how they define words?

2020-11-16 17:28:59 UTC  

> yeah i think it's just no country borders
@米饭和面条 funny, because all the communist states have pretty strong border and pretty strict punishment for daring to escape the border

2020-11-16 17:29:14 UTC  

lul

2020-11-16 17:29:22 UTC  

> you think I care about how they define words?
@米饭和面条 yeah. otherwise how do you defend them or actually argue in their shoes?

2020-11-16 17:29:42 UTC  

eh

2020-11-16 17:29:58 UTC  

i don't really defend them at all

2020-11-16 17:31:15 UTC  

sure, but you kind of rib some of us for pigeon-holed communism. you can't point out our hypocrisy if you can't tell us what else we missed about communism

2020-11-16 17:38:02 UTC  

well no, I can still rib you for what you miss about communism

2020-11-16 17:38:35 UTC  

regardless I would say that I still have a much more educated understanding of it than a lot of the people here

2020-11-16 17:40:05 UTC  

right. but you didn't really elaborate on why you think communism is a better system, or at least a system that should be considered more serious than what most here are believing as

2020-11-16 17:42:36 UTC  

i made google accurate for once

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/762720224268910632/777951770621640734/unknown.png

2020-11-16 17:43:20 UTC  

not accurate enough. be more creative with the Google logos

2020-11-16 17:43:50 UTC  

They would be having transgender artwork

2020-11-16 17:45:11 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/762720224268910632/777952421866373150/Screenshot_20201116-124443_Chrome.jpg

2020-11-16 17:47:08 UTC  

thank god they dont lol

2020-11-16 17:48:46 UTC  

> right. but you didn't really elaborate on why you think communism is a better system, or at least a system that should be considered more serious than what most here are believing as
@isoboto what the fuck

2020-11-16 17:48:52 UTC  

i never said communism was a better system

2020-11-16 17:49:02 UTC  

> marxism is fucking retarded
@米饭和面条 literally said this

2020-11-16 17:54:19 UTC  

i couldnt find the left cant meme server

2020-11-16 17:54:22 UTC  

when i shared

2020-11-16 17:54:31 UTC  

<#733948098694348800>

2020-11-16 17:54:34 UTC  

so this is the best place to share it

2020-11-16 17:55:09 UTC  

@Master oogwei <#733948098694348800> is the best place to share it.

2020-11-16 18:13:19 UTC  

> i never said communism was a better system
@米饭和面条 lmao i also said "**at least a system that should be considered more serious than what most here are believing as**". you considered yourself to be more educated on the topic don't really elaborate on making people stop pigeon-holed marxism/communism

2020-11-16 18:29:07 UTC  
2020-11-16 18:36:19 UTC  

My teacher just admitted to being ok with giving up personal freedoms for the "Greater good"

2020-11-16 18:36:44 UTC  

> My teacher just admitted to being ok with giving up personal freedoms for the "Greater good"
@ThiccSpicyGenderRevealParty nice. she should do it for a chinese citizen. do it for the global greater good