Message from @isoboto

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2020-11-30 03:17:15 UTC  

unsure if they way cops interact with people affect if people comply or not

2020-11-30 03:17:37 UTC  

They don't need to change their uniform, people just need to change theor mindset

2020-11-30 03:18:12 UTC  

yea blm basically brainwashed to think police is hunting blacks when they aren't

2020-11-30 03:18:39 UTC  

i want police reform across the board, period. officers swear to the constitution, not the draconian laws. that being said, the thing is, bad police can deemed it as "necessary" to the constitution and used it to justify their bad actions

2020-11-30 03:19:21 UTC  

Yea I want a police reform, cops do feel like they have too much power and it's easy to have the same feeling

2020-11-30 03:20:05 UTC  

I also don't know what they should change with cops, in terms of racial justice there's basically nothing since racist interactions make up not even half a % tbh

2020-11-30 03:20:21 UTC  

i'd argue the cuts actually allow for more bad cops. all the good ones are pushed out/fired/quit. department desperate for cops and proceeded to hire literally anyone, rushed through training. hence, more bad cops

2020-11-30 03:20:44 UTC  

I thought the same thing

2020-11-30 03:21:19 UTC  

filtering out the bad cops is really difficult since they would have to find proof of them being unprofessional and complaints wouldn't be enough

2020-11-30 03:21:28 UTC  

Body cams

2020-11-30 03:21:45 UTC  

i heard an interesting point: we should have a civilian training class. because "the talk" is basically given to everyone (hell, even my immigrant parents told me that the first time we came to canada). but they somehow turned it into racism. so we need to educate the mass

2020-11-30 03:21:47 UTC  

oh yeah body cams

2020-11-30 03:21:49 UTC  

But those are expensive and how long should the video footage be stored?

2020-11-30 03:22:27 UTC  

My parents most likely said the same thing but can you elaborate since I can prob relate

2020-11-30 03:22:58 UTC  

sometimes people interaction turns violent. i'd say mental health support for cops is a definite thing, have those checkpoints in place so cops who may be stressed out are deployed elsewhere or receive supports in time.

2020-11-30 03:23:02 UTC  

defund the police but demand body cams

2020-11-30 03:23:47 UTC  

wdym? the talk my dad gave me? "put your hands on the wheel, stay still until the police comes over. be polite and answer question"

2020-11-30 03:23:52 UTC  

And mental health training for cops so they can recognize when someone is going through a crisis such as schizophrenia.

2020-11-30 03:23:53 UTC  

I agree that we should invest in social services, it's very hard to determine if it would be effective or if people will even use them.

2020-11-30 03:24:35 UTC  

oh ok, my dad just told me to not to look back

2020-11-30 03:24:44 UTC  

most pd have body cams now (funnily enough, also the reason why so many cops wrongfully accused of racism/police brutality got saved by the body cams)

2020-11-30 03:24:58 UTC  

@isoboto my parents gave me that talk to and I'm white lol. My parents have never committed crimes so we don't have anything to be worried about

2020-11-30 03:25:09 UTC  

like george floyd got saved by body cams

2020-11-30 03:25:42 UTC  

@2Lazy2BeOriginal yes, that footage should have been made public instantly though

2020-11-30 03:25:44 UTC  

definitely. idk if having a mental worker on the ride is necessarily helpful, but wouldn't hurt to give it a try. but the mental worker needs to give some basic training tho

2020-11-30 03:26:10 UTC  

still wrong and doesn't make the cop better, but it wasn't racist and floyd was being annoying to be with

2020-11-30 03:26:42 UTC  

not necessarily. the knee-on-neck was still an overkill, but i absolutely agree it makes the whole case for floyd being "innocent" into more doubt

2020-11-30 03:26:43 UTC  

Well they don't need a mental health worker along for the ride, but they need training in understanding mental health in people they may come across

2020-11-30 03:27:42 UTC  

I'm not convinced the officer had a lot of weight pressed into Floyds neck.

2020-11-30 03:28:02 UTC  

lol every parent give the talk, i think. should still have a mandatory class for the public tho, i think, maybe given by a police. built rapport with the people, too

2020-11-30 03:28:41 UTC  

floyd was a victim and the cops were awful but victim isn't always good person, he may have been a good person at heart but he was high and was annoying

2020-11-30 03:28:45 UTC  

only chauvin. the other 3 were trying their best. remember, chauvin has seniority, and i think 1-2 of them are rookies

2020-11-30 03:29:12 UTC  

2 were rookies

2020-11-30 03:29:38 UTC  

The police officer in my communtiy did the DARE education in my elementary school and was at community events. That probably helped me understand the role of law enforcement

2020-11-30 03:30:15 UTC  

We cut umbilical cords they cut ding dongs

2020-11-30 03:30:28 UTC  

??

2020-11-30 03:33:07 UTC  

Lol sorry my signal sucks jumped from a transition children topic to this one lok

2020-11-30 03:34:36 UTC  

Okay haha

2020-11-30 03:50:49 UTC  

as it should be. a lot of the problems stemmed from police slowly being detached from local people, thus further straining the tension

2020-11-30 04:04:15 UTC  

@isoboto agreed! Although I do believe the stories of abuse of black men by police has trickled down from generation to generation. It's not nearly as bad as it once was but black kids have probably heard horror stories from their parents and grandparents. That's a tough issue to fix evem with community outreach

2020-11-30 04:23:29 UTC  

Definitely, the bad cops are what made this riot start in the first place, sure, Floyd did die due to fentnol and a combination of drugs, but the knee to the neck justified their stupid actions as seen by the delusional left