Message from @2Lazy2BeOriginal

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2021-01-02 19:14:12 UTC  

restructured in what way?

2021-01-02 19:15:09 UTC  

like social workers, demiliterization, more community intagration, that sound like a good idea?

2021-01-02 19:15:43 UTC  

well for social workers it would be really hard to find people willing to do it or if the person won’t straight up attack the social worker

2021-01-02 19:15:44 UTC  

Yeah like the social worker that was attacked the day after Minneapolis defunded the police?

2021-01-02 19:17:35 UTC  

does demilitarization involve them dressing a different way or

2021-01-02 19:17:48 UTC  

like if it’s drug users than social workers can work

2021-01-02 19:18:00 UTC  

domestic abuse I’m not too sure

2021-01-02 19:18:11 UTC  

They are really unpredictable

2021-01-02 19:20:12 UTC  

Lol show up to a crazed man on bath salts wielding a knife... They would just end up doing bath salts with dude

2021-01-02 19:23:43 UTC  

thats a situation were you use heavily armed police

2021-01-02 19:24:26 UTC  

But anybody could be on drugs, you cant tell without speaking to them

2021-01-02 19:24:29 UTC  

Lots of situations cops face are unpredictable, with an equal amount of people who try violent acts. Watch some Donut Operator, as his cop body cam footage breakdowns were quite eye opening. The decent people know to behave, and the indecent try to attack. Even in the heated moment, most cops show incredible restraint and composure. These body cams plainly show that regular cops are needed, for good reason. A good thing is using more force than the perp, because we want to keep our cops alive. Otherwise we risk more cops getting injured or killed needlessly

2021-01-02 19:24:36 UTC  

but like domestic abuse, a guy on the roof, an od etc, jobs not meant for the pd have been lump, wrongfully, onto them without trianing them for it or giving them the tools to respond

2021-01-02 19:25:03 UTC  

Body cam footage differs with you

2021-01-02 19:25:16 UTC  

@mightytrump yeah, but i mean like mine restant vechiles and miltary surplus

2021-01-02 19:25:43 UTC  

Domestic abuse and social worker wouldn’t go very well since the person is gonna be very agreesive

2021-01-02 19:25:48 UTC  

@mightytrump by the way, that was said by a cop who worked closely with my family (paraphrased

2021-01-02 19:25:54 UTC  

but who knows, I’m not a cop

2021-01-02 19:25:55 UTC  

If you want to see some graphic violence look up ms panda den on the youtube

2021-01-02 19:25:56 UTC  

Domestic abuse does need a cop otherwise the social worker will be dead

2021-01-02 19:26:12 UTC  

Such as a cop on standby?

2021-01-02 19:26:15 UTC  

yeah

2021-01-02 19:26:17 UTC  

duh

2021-01-02 19:26:19 UTC  

Those are the most dangerous calls

2021-01-02 19:26:25 UTC  

you need diffent tools in tandum

2021-01-02 19:26:41 UTC  

I’m not surprised domestic abuse are one of the most dangerous calls

2021-01-02 19:26:43 UTC  

I don't see the problem with police using it. You might have an argument for how much manpower police respond with, but if we want to keep our cops not dead in a ditch we give them the tools to defend against crazies who always try bad stuff

2021-01-02 19:26:49 UTC  

So how do you get more tools by defending them?

2021-01-02 19:26:55 UTC  

Defunding

2021-01-02 19:26:58 UTC  

It’s not like they are gonna bother listening

2021-01-02 19:27:27 UTC  

I've seen a good amount of body cam footage, of cops helping people with that - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2jekvQ76mw

2021-01-02 19:28:09 UTC  

yeah, cops good, thats true, but like reform is good to

2021-01-02 19:28:22 UTC  

Reform to strengthen police, not weaken them

2021-01-02 19:29:22 UTC  

I think a lot of it is more so an individual level as suppose to the police

2021-01-02 19:29:33 UTC  

sure, but stregthen through reform, that demilitairzed humaises and brings down the unexcusable murders commited by the few bad apples

2021-01-02 19:29:47 UTC  

strengthen them physically AND mentally

2021-01-02 19:29:53 UTC  

@2Lazy2BeOriginal YES, but how do we combat them

2021-01-02 19:29:54 UTC  

YES!

2021-01-02 19:29:57 UTC  
2021-01-02 19:30:42 UTC  

That I don’t know we could do a regular check but what’s stopping them from lying or something

2021-01-02 19:30:59 UTC  

How would reducing the force a cop can use, cut down on the one bad case?