Thats a fair question
@LuckyPuffy doesn;t everybody?
Or a collapse of the political order in place
@steven the angry deplorable🇺🇸🇺🇸 you know how it is in europe better than i do, I just dissagre with some of the reasons why
There's still a hierarchy in anarchism and that's, who's the strongest and who has the most resources
Everytime when I talk about this stuff I can't help but think: What a funky monkey we are!
Its just im very much American i im born in Belgium but looking to move there because eu is going to shit
Anarchists have the littlest patience ever. They just want communism from the get go, without working too hard
Not to sound mean or pissy or anything but is that the basics of any from of Goverment but in a less brutal and nicer way?
~~well at least for capitalism~~
anarchist is someone who finds the problem in the current system, destroys it, and offers no way to replace it.
GOD DAMN YOU ARE RIGHT.
that's kind of marxism too though
Exactly!
it's theory based upon the idea that it will somehow develop eventually
Nah, Marxism has lower stage socialism, higher state socialism and communism, which are all made by the help of a state.
Marxism has a plan to replace what's there with tyranny
Anarchism is just straight to communism
Without socialism
Alright I am going to say the crazy: Do you think that the world is WAY better off if communism did not exsist at all?
yes but my point is no marxists know the socialism they advocate for
they base it upon the theory that capitalism was developed when it was implemented so will socialism
I like to imagine a world where communism did not exsist at all.
The world is a better place if no communists or socialists existed, *unequivocally*
Social democracy is a good start to fix capitalism.
@🐦Lt.SEC🐝 if you look at it as marx wrote it, for the next 300 years or so, definately, after that, I do not know
Look at Sweden, Finland, they’re pretty developed with their social democracy
Me to. I am kinda clueless also.
Right now, nationalism and populism are winning, not socialism. Socialism will be eventually tried again, just that not today.
so you disagree with pure socialism?
nationalism is bad, patriotism is good, agreed?
@Simpnautica please define that term
Stalin, Lenin, Mao, they all had interpretations of socialism.
I just see it as an informal way of governing Not exactly a good form of government though
i mean the google definition. no private property
Yeah...
that's not good
ok fair enough. social democracy seems to be a ok system
Yeah, it actually works
It never is, because it devolves into factional warring
