@conker Well, that's what we call 'The Wall', no? even though the only thing that happens is their attractiveness stops giving them a free pass for everything.

@Flame of truth Eros but they still count towards the save women and children first bs ...

@ResolvingParadox13 their attractiveness may fade,
Still they have all the metoo accusation rights, feminism gave them
besides the preferential treatment in the job market / affirmative action bs

@conker hmm I don’t think they count, from what I’ve seen it’s children and women before the wall. I doubt I man would get himself killed for an 80 year old women. Even if he was effiminent or however u spell it low testosterone

@Flame of truth Eros to live according to my beliefs in traditional values, self determination, and the preservation of my heritage

@conker that is why I hate the modern conservative party. It still believes in holding doors for women and won't address them in the workplace at all

@ManOWar u mean religion?

No

Doesn’t all traditionalism point to a religion?

But tbf i see the "conservative" as controlled opposition more then a real party

No

@Flame of truth Eros Kinda

Name one that doesn’t?

Religion does help with traditionalism

They go together like peanut butter and jam

@Mr.Black yup, the so called "conservatives" are basically useless ...what did they actually conserve ?

I was on r/gendercritical

Hilarious shit

@Flame of truth Eros no, you can have morals without religion but religion has been used to hold morals together

Historically speaking

@Mr.Black how?

Religion doesn't equal tradition

And vice versa

^

@conker They conserved their own cowardice

All our morals come from Christian or Greco Roman and their both religious

@ManOWar True im just saying that they go pretty well together

That's not true at all

@Flame of truth Eros that's incorrect

Explain

@Punished Korgoth yeah

@ManOWar ''muh judeo christrian values''

What morals are u talking about

Positivism heavily influenced Western morals

Such as?

The belief in truth

The belief in presumption of innocence

Hol up, I'll need to write a list

But i need to be on pc for that

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5014506/

The English Bill of Rights formed the basis of a secular government and the formation of the American bill of rights