Message from @little hollow
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There are plenty of reasons, one being that they protect our communities and I'd say are necessary. The reason why us republicans dont want that is because they want to take our guns too, so no fighting back.
and they are not inheritly racist, like many of the talking heads would love to make you believe.
@Purple guy π€πΆ can you give me a good video why defunding would be a good idea?
Im saying it's a bad idea and I need to hear someone give more information on it
Oh ok
Well it really comes down to a logical conclusion. Whether a video do it or not, doesn't really matter. You can make the same conclusions based on the fact that as seen in places like Portland, Cleveland, Minneapolis, and many others.
Yeah
Crime has increased in those areas dramatically because certain abilities given to officers with that said money has been taken away and has to be distributed and stretched differently and much thinner than before ending up in less capabilities for the officers money wise.
Oh I see, thank you for the information
I think you can find the information and exact percentages on the web.
News networks, whatever works for you
defund no, but agument them so that they are not dealing with senarios they are not trained to deal with.
and demiliterize
argument them?
if you want?
I don't understand what you mean
augment
Oh okay
Yeah, to an extent that could help, but in the end, the situations where an officer does something out of hand it isn't directly because of protocol or them following their orders. So it's not something systemic wrong with that, mainly just one with malleable human beings. In the end, there's always going to be another incident where an individual officer does something wrong, even if there is more funding, better training, more rules etc.
true, but we can adress things that are rascist in our culture, but my argument is above
mutliple studies have found police with heavier weaponry leads to more agressive actions. so like a hand gun and a shotgun/rifle in the car is ok dokey, but mine resistant vechiles and military surplus is a bit extra
Studies by whom?
Where do you propose we send military surplus? I'm all for giving it to surplus stores to distribute LEGALLY.
Chaz, in a country where people can make guns out of metal pipes, and where you can legally buy a rifle, why shouldn't they have those vehicles that protect them? Or have more firepower if a fight begins between someone who has quite bit more fire power?
Or create bombs from household items...
Maybe the funding in these places could be distributed differently and more conservatively, but the police need just as much if not more force than the people they are being called to.
because, they can call in other forces that have heavier armorment, but that policeman by the corner store don't need body armor and a assult rifle
@chaz the average officer isnt issued an MRAP as his service vehicle, those are reserved for more special forces in the Police itself like Swat or whatever the states police is like the Rangers in Texas
and stuff like the M32 Rotary Grenade Launchers are also not used in the average officers arsenal, except in high escalation moments where they need to quickly send a flashbang/smoke/teargas towards a violent crowd
they only pull these things out when the crowds escalate their tactics or are in a situation like a terror situation
matter of fact, the MRAP's and M32's they get are rather old surplus from the Miltiary, or are faulty and require alot of maintenance to work right
m32s are valid
Notice theyβre all white yet are supposedly fighting for black people
And look all sjw
These fucks are using the guise of peaceful protests to make their image look good before committing violent crimes.
π This is Conspriracy to commit Treason. These people need to be arrested, tried, and if convicted, sentenced to at least 20 years in a Federal Pen.