Other ones will be very good for a strong debate but it usually never changes them.

straight up debating with people like that isnt going to work either ebcause they cant actually have a debate. theyll continuously refuse and deny evidence without providing any, and it will just devolve into a yelling match and them name calling and youll make negative progress

thats why you dont argue with them or try to debate with them, you give them information and let them do what they will with it.

I find it easier to take an initiative and talk about success. Most of these people don't know alot about the other candidates.

People tend to favor a person who does things they like.

the problem is Trump is doing quite a few things these people like, but they refuse to acknowledge that because hes Trump, or they dont know hes doing those things, or even when someone proves hes doing the things they want they brush it off because "Orange Man"

so despite Trump doing what they want and what they need, theyll still vote democrat. its absolutely fucking mind boggling.

Most of these democrats are sheep.

They pursue to believe in the negative and negate everything else.

but even sheep will change their mind in an instant, these people are worse... they blindly follow something and are so brainwashed into believing it, they wont even mindlessly change sides.

These people don't follow political ideals but rather the status and reputation of a candidate.

what about the clowns that hate Biden, but are still voting for him because "Fuck Trump, even though I know Biden is worse."

If you say "Bernie Sanders with tax cuts so people can have more choice with their money", all of a sudden they would be for lower taxes.

They just hate Trump.

thats what Campus Reform is so awesome. they credit Biden, Killary, Bernie with Trump's ideas or things hes actually implemented, and these ignorant people absolutely LOVE those things, but when they reveal it was Trump they decide they dont like it much anymore.

If you put anyone else with the same ideas into that position, they would go for it.

Yeah.

absolutely insane. Trump's second term is so important... but shit will get very bad. I keep saying things are about to boil over...

This was a good convo.👍

agreed.

You make it seem like they are NPCs, but they're not. They know conservative personalities and views. They are fans of breadtube

When you meet them, you'll see what we're talking about.

I live in a VERY liberal neighborhood so stuff like this is common.

It was an interesting read @Wardog . Thanks for your input.

I'm curious. Where do all these fringe theories of Donald Trump being a white supremacist and yadda yadda? Can y'all link me to some good sources to debunk this?

People just make this stuff about the President.

We should follow the idea "Innocent until proven guilty."

> I'm curious. Where do all these fringe theories of Donald Trump being a white supremacist and yadda yadda? Can y'all link me to some good sources to debunk this?
@Red Jasper How about those photos of Donald Trump with black people back when he was a rich person and everyone pretty much did everything they could to please him?

lol. Right? I saw them.

Are there plans for Trump to visit Southern California? I'd like to see him

@Variss, my sister's gone full gloves-off leftist at this point, she's on Reddit and actually takes that website seriously, other social medias, watches breadtube content on YT, and tries to defend the riots and shit and thinks that "white privilege" exists when she argues w/ me or my dad. She's 12, which is the weirdest part about it as well.

@AWOIII you need to redpill her.

> How do you change the minds of 10 of so people who are committed to vote blue
@Variss why would you do such thing?

the only thing a person with fully made mind change their mind is for their own minds to be changed by themselves.

@AWOIII i'm assuming she has a phone

that's what's probably causing her to go off like that

I'm assuming she uses Tik Tok.

> she's on Redidit and actually takes that website seriously, other social medias

probably

but, uh

right there's her problem