Message from @Simpnautica

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2020-10-28 00:44:20 UTC  

but like surely there is a yes and no answer to everything

2020-10-28 00:44:42 UTC  

that is backed up with reasoning instead of personal interests you know?

2020-10-28 00:45:30 UTC  

The people know what they want, so they choose the person who promises to do what they want.

2020-10-28 00:46:08 UTC  

but people are selfish and only vote for what they think is best for them but without really knowing truly why

2020-10-28 00:46:12 UTC  

that seems flawed

2020-10-28 00:46:39 UTC  

So the people shouldn’t have a say in who is gonna represent them?

2020-10-28 00:47:03 UTC  

i think the people should identify problems but not be the ones to solve them

2020-10-28 00:47:21 UTC  

I don’t get the point you’re making.

2020-10-28 00:48:04 UTC  

my point is there are conservatives vs liberals but surely instead of people being so divided there is a correct answer and reason why

2020-10-28 00:48:29 UTC  

But who decides what the correct answer is?

2020-10-28 00:48:50 UTC  

the people who have studied how to solve these problems i feel like

2020-10-28 00:49:23 UTC  

And who decides who is the most educated? The people in power. Back to my original point.

2020-10-28 00:49:35 UTC  

It wouldn’t work.

2020-10-28 00:49:53 UTC  

people who are best in their field and identified without corruption

2020-10-28 00:50:48 UTC  

idk i'm going on what's on the top of my head but

2020-10-28 00:50:55 UTC  

And who decides who is identified without corruption? See, the problem is that people will always try to put their own guy into office. The electoral college at least tries to give as many people as possible a choice.

2020-10-28 00:51:21 UTC  

fbi probably?

2020-10-28 00:51:35 UTC  

And if the FBI is partisan?

2020-10-28 00:52:00 UTC  

FBI is definitely partisan.

2020-10-28 00:52:55 UTC  

idk just a thought that maybe who is being voted in shouldn't decide on what is binary

2020-10-28 00:53:02 UTC  

but dumb thought and went on for too long lol

2020-10-28 00:53:25 UTC  

That’s fine. It’s an interesting topic of debate.

2020-10-28 00:54:48 UTC  

Additional, solutions don’t always help everyone. I personally don’t believe there is such thing as a free lunch. Even if someone is a expert in there field doesn’t mean their solution will the best for everyone. This is why federalism is a big part of the US. We shouldn’t focus on who is in charge of the federal government to solve our people. We need to focus on our local leaders because they could provide a much more direct better solution, versus a large government one.

2020-10-28 00:55:55 UTC  

well true but i mean like i would take a economists word on economy rather than my own because i know next to nothing

2020-10-28 00:56:25 UTC  

and even that isn't binary but like

2020-10-28 00:56:51 UTC  

you see what i mean. some people vote without reasoning and at least a economist has good reasoning

2020-10-28 00:57:52 UTC  

Lol, ya if you put a traditional investor with a day trader in a room and ask which method is the best. It will turn into a dog fight.

2020-10-28 01:00:22 UTC  

Hey, I give free lunch! No one goes hungry at my workplace, I acquire bread and PB & J from donations.

2020-10-28 01:02:19 UTC  

I feel like people nowadays just look at the federal government as the only gov and that the fed gov is basically just the president. There are experts in the executive branch like in bureaucracies and in Congress like in committees and in those people that they pay patronage to in exchange for research. There are many many people involved in the fed government that aid in our leaders' decision making. We have both experts and civilians that represent the public so that we have representation of common civilians who know most about what issues citizens have, and we have the experts who can give possible solutions.

2020-10-28 01:05:10 UTC  

Idk much about government, but I'm currently taking an AP class on the ins and outs of gov. I forgot the name of the people that Congress asks for research from

2020-10-28 01:05:15 UTC  

congress has too much power and it breaks the checks and balances

2020-10-28 01:07:16 UTC  

I agree with that tbh

2020-10-28 01:07:57 UTC  

Maybe this is what it was like at the end of the Roman Republic?

2020-10-28 01:08:55 UTC  

People think that the president has so much power when really Congress has more power to make change within the country. Also I don't know, that's an interesting question

2020-10-28 01:09:13 UTC  

For their time, the Romans had a pretty good political system.

2020-10-28 01:11:10 UTC  

it's true that people focuses just on a single politician or a president and forgets that its a big machine with lots of people pushing buttons

2020-10-28 01:13:41 UTC  

Things would change to the better if people obsessed less about electing a certain individual and focused more on the full picture, starting with your local and state politicians

2020-10-28 01:14:29 UTC  

Yes, exactly!

2020-10-28 01:14:43 UTC  

I'm more about state gov than fed

2020-10-28 01:16:17 UTC  

usually these morons like AOC and ilhan omar only gets elected because people don't pay attention to their own districts and therefore a relative few misguided people gets to elect these coocoo's

2020-10-28 01:16:25 UTC  

New York screwed up.