Message from @nate_
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Oh they're great we need 100 more like him
Yes Change my mind is really good
The shows are really great though
Gen 2 is much more chill
Gen 2 is much chill
Crowder has a lot of shit takes
How do you mean?
"Male privilege is a myth"
You mean that stance you disagree with or that it's not a good discussion ?
I heavily disagree
Understood, I disagree with any sentiment of privilege based on immutable characteristics and do not see any data to definitely prove claims to the contrary. I think you can say there are individuals that have advantages over others but not on that basis alone
I love crowder
Political
Well there are hundreds of different things in this world that give someone an advantage. Once there are people born with these advantages while they are withheld from others it is a privilege. Some ones are more substanial than others but undeniabley they exist and male privilege is a huge one and it is very ignorant to say that it is a myth
Again disagree, I think that's a generalization of people based on sex. There are females that have significant advantages over males based on socio-economic status for instance, or baseline factors -- such as intellect or appearance. You could make an argument in the past women had to content with issues men did not but the same is true in the inverse. Thus to simplify something into a single dramatically over generalized statement such as "male privilege" is incredibly divisive and is not inherently true in and of itself given as you acknowledge there are literally hundreds of factors.
Male privilege is a joke it’s female privilege 100%
Not even gonna argue about that
> Obviously men are not privileged in every single area i agree but thats not what im saying. The areas in which women have an advantage are not nearly as impactful in the areas in which men have privilege. Its not black and white but it is absolutley skewed in the favor of men and as a result men `averagely` have an overwhelming amount of advanteges over females
Most of it is also atributed to human constructed social norms and not genetics
Men have advantages mentally and physically because men think logically and men are biologically stronger
But which area(s) in particular are those that we can categorize as distinctly male versus distinctly female from human constructed norms? At least in "Western society" as in some radical nations I can see plenty of egregious issues.
That's fair I suppose but it's a bell curve it's just "on average" men are stronger but not always the case I'd get my ass beat by a lot of girls
Well if you’re talking ronda rousey yeah
I reckon the advantages are pretty random, again like class or genetics - things we don’t choose
Just looked her up yes, she would destroy me with zero issues lol
1. Lower standard of living 2. Less wealth 3. Dramitically more rape victims 4. Shamed for not adhering to social norms such as staying home and cooking/cleaning. There have been many tests conducted concluding that in the workplace women are not as respected as men and are not given as many oportunities to suceed. That is in the U.S alone but there are many more problems with the underlying social constructs that result in men being given a better chance to succeed over women
On standards of living and wealth, this is an complex set of data and often does not compare apples to apples. What occupations on average? Single/Married/Children. When you do compare those you see a very narrow band and in some cases females make more than their male counterparts. I'd argue in *this* category in particular females are not arbitrarily disadvantaged. If we take say the "single mother" aspect, than you would say "People with dependents are disadvantaged" but that could include single fathers even if that involves "less" individuals. Regarding rape the statistics show children actually are the highest risk group for sexual assault comprising almost 70% of all incidents, but I will fully yield that yes adult women are at higher risk than the average adult man but the incidents of rape vary almost as much by other factors such as location or education level. In terms of societal shame.. we can't really quantify such a subjective concept but I would not consider *that* a prevailing thought
But again it circles back to my point of like, IMO you disadvantage males that are at risk by over generalizing. I know it's human nature to simplify it's an easier message to convey but it's not the right message IMO
Joe these statistics are averages and aren’t looked at in specificity but I understand thst
To me it's like saying "Rich people have less problems" versus "Poor people have problems". Is it the same message? Really. Or is one actually trying to "Tear down rich people" versus actually helping poor people.
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LOL
I was gonna say, I'll come back when you guys are stupider.
I really thought @Draconem_Dominus would show up and rail on about something
But he did not lol and Gen 1 is crazy lol
Say what you want. Bur women aren’t sent to die if war breaks out
Men are more likely to commit suicide
That's common sense. You don't kill your breeders.
Yeah I mean each side has it's bullet points I just like to call out the 'irony' for lack of a better term perhaps about the messaging it's clearly "sensationalism"