Wait I thought he already lost?

Is it not over

Wait I watch John Doyle and he seems pretty damn conservitive to me

Avallone is based

I would argue we are still fucked because conservitism is fundementally flawed and Trump only makes the problem worse

How have we failed to secure our borders? There is less immagration to this country than ever before

??? This is a problem that has been decreasing long before he came to office. Im not a huge fan of Obama but he deported more undocumented immagrants than any other president

But what are the other issues

What are the issues with immagration though?

Which rights?

I thought gun rights have been increasing

Demographic shifts isnt a problem how is that in anyway harmful

Bruh whats wrong with checking someones history before they buy a gun to minimize the chances of there being an armed crime?

Lol if they are ilegal immigrants they cant vote and dont impact the electoral system

Oh my bad. What other rights are being taken away from gun owners though bc i honestly dont know

I dont see a huge problem with that other than logistically that wouldnt really happen because moving across a continent is pretty difficult. Im also not advocating for open borders but just some lenency for those running from war and crime

But i thought that the U.S was a country comprised of almost entirely imagrants and their desendents and what makes American culture is the culmination of cultures from all over the world. So why should we decide to stop now. Immigrants add a lot to the U.S

Cultures can coexist its not like Islamic culture is taking America over they simply enjoy there culture alongside others

Lol so the 13.5 million immigrants from europe in 1910 were all "settlers". Dude there was more immigration then there was now

Yes but the peak of immigration was 1907

But becasue those immigrints were white they should get to stay right?

TF?? Why do u think that immigrants "hate America"

Well yes most of Americas founding principals only extended to white land owning males. People still hold the same belifes they just think that everyone should be given an equal chance. so if equality of opportunity is "anti-American' than i am anti- american

Dude where are these people most immigrints I know are more patriotic than those born here

Where are these mega socalist immigrints you are talking about?

So people leave their lives behind and come to the U.S for the sole purpose of making the America a worse place? Not only does that make no sense but there is also no evidence to back that up

Ok, Literally nothing that supports that baseless claim. All evidence shows that immigrants work harder and add a lot to our culture

Yeah good talk

Sorry I am new to politics. What is globalism and why is it bad?

Whats Obamagate? sorry new to politics

Thanks!

??? Thats not the definition i found

Did y'all see Harry Styles in a dress? I think that he is trying to feminize our men so that he and his Marxist army can take us over!

Lol I dont think that the indoctrination of children is a great idea. They should not be told to accept or reject political ideologies

Wait is the election still going on? I thought it was called

No the kids should learn about Nazim and of course they will reject it as its fundementally flawed. Kids should also learn about communism but shouldnt be told if they are allowed to belive it or not

You cant just have school tell kids what they are and are not alowed to think. We just have to give them the tools to make their own descisions

I have not heard this before. How could he still win?

Crowder has a lot of shit takes

Thanks!

But the UN is wildly different from the League of Nations. It was created bc the LON was a faliure and the two are very different. The UN spends its money lowering military tensions, fighting starvation, fighting poverty, working to eradicate abuse of children, increasing overall education and much more. Just because the UN takes action on a global scale does not mean their only value is "one world order".

"Male privilege is a myth"

I heavily disagree

Well there are hundreds of different things in this world that give someone an advantage. Once there are people born with these advantages while they are withheld from others it is a privilege. Some ones are more substanial than others but undeniabley they exist and male privilege is a huge one and it is very ignorant to say that it is a myth

> Obviously men are not privileged in every single area i agree but thats not what im saying. The areas in which women have an advantage are not nearly as impactful in the areas in which men have privilege. Its not black and white but it is absolutley skewed in the favor of men and as a result men `averagely` have an overwhelming amount of advanteges over females

Most of it is also atributed to human constructed social norms and not genetics

Im not saying any of that you are wrong but the UN is neccasery since most of these issues are in the UN's hands becuase they cant be handeled at the local level. Because of this international cooperation is needed and that comes in the form of the UN.

1. Lower standard of living 2. Less wealth 3. Dramitically more rape victims 4. Shamed for not adhering to social norms such as staying home and cooking/cleaning. There have been many tests conducted concluding that in the workplace women are not as respected as men and are not given as many oportunities to suceed. That is in the U.S alone but there are many more problems with the underlying social constructs that result in men being given a better chance to succeed over women

Why not?

I disagree with them on a lot but they make more sense than most of the half assed arguments people were making in the election chat

Join the chaos

Bro you could not get vaccinated and still live more years than braincells in this chat

What was wrong with the dress i thought it looked pretty good?

Im confused someone explain why it was contriversial to wear a dress?

Wait i actually cant tell if this is a joke or not...

Well by judging from some of the baseless shit you talk about in other chats i woudnt be suprised if you are an actual fucking lunitic

Hi, just a reminder that that is not true.

Do you think people should be required to wear masks?

??? They have a massive impact

The reason numbers are going up is because people are idiots and dont wear masks

Trump lost already . very sad 😢

The republican party is fucked

Wait what will happen?

Which ones

Even better conspiracy theory

There was widespread voter fraud that changed the outcome

How is manhood being redefined? So just because women traditionally wear dresses men wearing dresses is something we should fight against? The world changes and we need to be evaluating our cultural past and see if there were mistakes and seeing as the traditional definition of "manhood" is in some cases incompatible with the modern world we have to reevaluate our prior misconceptions about standard gender roles.

How is that relevant? Even if i was an Atheist I would still hold the same beliefs since I dont let religion dictate my morality

First of all morality is not entirely objective and is subjective to some extent. And me not %100 percent adhering to obsolete religious values does not mean i dont believe in god. A person can be religious and not cater to traditionalist ideas that are not only useless but in fact harmful. As for the "redefining of marriage" this is an essential component to progress as our first "definition" of marriage was wrong.

Dude you are literally making the same argument as Leibniz which is deeply flawed. You are saying thats since god is morally perfect so everything he creates is perfect and therefore this world is completley perfect. This us unbelievebally wrong as there are many things in this world that are not perfect. "he standard that he has set for us, is utter garbage and should be thrown out just like the trash because we need to adapt to the culture." acording to this idiotic logic we should have kept slavery as god created it and why should we through out what god created? Yes god created the world but that in no way stops us from changing it. Change is a part of the world and morality evolves along with society. As for your pedophilia argument I am not saying that every single social structure must change but there are social structures with deep problems that must change.

But why should they act like that? How is forcing people into roles like that productive? What harm would i be causing if i were to act more feminine or wear makeup?

Should we hold onto outdated beliefs purely because we have held the same beliefs for a long time? Also you said gay marriage was not moral. Im not trying to question your belifies i just want to know why you think that its not right.

Again morally there is no reason to adhere to old gender roles aside from what people literal thousands of years thought was "normal"

Yeah the decriminalization of drugs especially weed is necessary

During the Punic wars %100

Trump won the election

So?

Btw they did the recount in wisconsin

What does the deep state control?

Sorry im not very familar with theology but if god did make everything why did he create so much evil pain?

https://apnews.com/article/election-2020-joe-biden-donald-trump-elections-william-barr-b1f1488796c9a98c4b1a9061a6c7f49d

He is controlled by the deep state

But the cause is starting to lose more and more support...

Wait I forgot is Sydney Powell good or bad?

But wasnt she fired because she was wrong about a lot of things?

Nah I read that they were all Trump supporters. While I am sympathetic to the cause i think they went overboard

Where did you hear that? Not questioning it but i just havent heard that yet

Evidence for what? what were you guys arguing about?

But the people who stormed the capital were Trump supporters...

At least everything ive been able to find says that

Well yeah their were those people there but thousands upon thousands were also there and upwards of %95 percent were trump supporters

So unless you can prove that those two guys were the only ones who broke the law or that they set up the whole event your point kinda becomes invalid

Lol you might wanna take this to the conspiracy theory chat...

You cant just cherry pick untrustworthy and sketchy evidence while disregarding the majority of information

Why tf are people so concerned with Jake Angeli its still irrefutable that the majority of the people there were Trump supporters

Bruh they were all identifiable as Trump supporters

Did you see all the stuff they had on as well as the people who were literally there posting stuff on social media. So unless antifa somehow took over thousands of peoples identities then its certain that they were Trump supporters.

So was that bearded guy and jake Angeli (who most likley are Trump supporters) the only ones commiting crimes?

Okay look further up this conversation and you will find many sources that say otherwise

Yes biden won