if they want to think they should be the opposite gender when they are younger, like 15 or something, fine. but let them age, mature, develop, and become adults before they are allowed to act on it. then we can make sure these people dont jump the gun (like with a phase that many children go through in some capacity) and ruin their lives

transgender surgery is pretty trash right now, and has a lot of botched cases, and definitely ruins lives.

My problem is when you get a transformation surgery to “change your gender” it might destroy your urinary tract, hormone blockers would screw up your body and it would give you poor health

exactly.

That’s why I don’t support it

its not simply "changing your gender" its literal mutilation, especially with the level our medical science is currently at

the friends i have, i would be very upset to see them ruin their lives or get some sort of botched results and regret it

if they want too when theyre 21 (again, the age i think it should be allowed at) then thats up to them

I mean I’d still like them as a person but I wouldn’t support what they do, but it’s their business

but this brings us back full circle to the education system, specifically sex ed, in schools needing a complete reform

i learned jack shit in sex ed at my school. i learned more in previous years from...... my antics, as well as the internet lmao.

people with gender dysphoria dont need sex change surgery, they need medicine for their mental disorder

The way nature intended

imagine not being taughtanything about this, and then forming a thought on the topic based on politics youre exposed too?

Hours of unfiltered internet searching

While i dont want to be harsh, i do agree. Gender Dysphoria is a mental disorder (and i cant believe it was declassified as one a couple years ago) and mutilating yourself SHOULD NOT be the first attempt at solving it

now i dont think we should try to "reeducate" them or anything..... but its a mental disorder that proper education, and possibly medicine (just like you would do with depression) cna help them.

It just doing transgender surgery is extremely dangerous and unnecessary

And it disrupts biology

@Alex Jones Eating Pizza are you lurking, or would you like to jump in on the discussion at all since you helped us get started on the topic?

Tell that to the medical professionals who perfom the surgery

It’s not what nature intended

you could also talk to the medical professionals who perform abortions about the dangers and how wrong it is believed to be by a lot of people.

they dont really care

its sad.

Abortion doctors aren’t doctors lmao because doctors are supposed to save lives not end them

i can agree with that.

> @Alex Jones Eating Pizza are you lurking, or would you like to jump in on the discussion at all since you helped us get started on the topic?
@Wardog sorry I was playing Mario

What's even more sad is the med students who push for the curriculum on abortion rights and how to perfom said procedures

also, Speshel, before we go any further, i dont want to attack what you said but "It's not what nature intended" would that refelct your beliefs on homosexuality? Please forgive me if i insult if i assume something incorrect

@Alex Jones Eating Pizza no worries man, what mario game? super mario maker by any chance?

Mario maker 2

good choice.

The levels get kinda repetitive after a bit

true, i dont have it, but i love watching it on youtube.

I also don’t support homosexuality either, because two men or two women can’t make a baby, and a child needs both a mother and a father to grow up and develop, so I don’t support homosexuality, but I’ll still like the person

gotcha, is that because of religious beliefs or just personally how you feel about the topic?

I’m a Christian but I also use scientific reasoning as well

It’s just not what nature intended

Personally, i have nothing against being gay. Im straight as hell 😂 but i have nothing against being gay. I can agree that "its not as nature intended" but we also see things in nature like Alex Jone's "gay frogs." haha, sometimes not even ones exposed to any alleged chemicals.

how would you explain something like that