@Flame of truth Eros
i don't believe in force, but rather focus on teaching understanding.

will it work with woman? can a woman truly understand something?
who knows.

maybe i'll find a unicorn who can 😛

@Flame of truth Eros it's not just strong and weak. It's able versus inable.

@Lilu that Latin word for power means to be able to

There's nothing wrong with women. The reason not to get married in the west has to do with western law and western culture not women.

@Lilu
pretty much.

weak men, create bad times.
and weak men were let into positions of power.

it needs to be changed.

@HotNoob so by talking to women, what do you believe will be achieved by this, and have seen success in such endeavors?

@Flame of truth Eros
there has been some success.

@HotNoob explain

@not here to buy ur mabi acc2k0-0 there is the point that on average men won't have kids unless some societal force matches up men and women. Today no such force exists in the west and therefore most men will need to learn to find a reason to live that does not include a moist hole. MGTOW is a path to finding your own value.

@Flame of truth Eros
never mind. no success, just only feels to be progress.

i thought i had made progress with my mother, but i guess not.

i donno

If the MGTOW path is not for you that's fine. Someone has to bring about the next generation. But you are kidding yourself if you believe in NAWALT.

one creates a society that perceives one or the other as a special,and superior falsely and the other as a slave, in our case we are slaving to uphold a system that modern women are ungrateful for, there cant be equality until women colonize a planet for themselves, were already better at that but back to my point all you have to do is tell an entire genderthey are invinsible and valueabe which is what we did to women and there you go, women free themselves from home where they raised kids

understanding never works. have to take something away from them until they learn that you're serious

now theyre unhappy

@Lilu with the invention of contraception, taking away a majority of accidental pregnancy, or spontaneous passion pregnancies, you’d either have to have strong morals or a strong religious belief to have children imo

@HotNoob I see

society does not have to be based on slaves.
that is tyranny.

we live in tyranny right now.

imo?

@Guayabaman in my opionion

dang

the spelling errors

@not here to buy ur mabi acc2k0-0 ok but what would your Soviet be like?

mm

@Flame of truth Eros I'm not trying to talk anyone into having kids. I'm just saying MGTOW isn't for everyone. If you want to ask me a good way to have kids, well I have no idea. My path does not lie in that direction.

Society*

@Lilu

What is mgtow?

@Lilu so you are outside of society? Then why do you care what happens to it? Or is currently happening to it?

@HotNoob it's description is in the title. It's just going your own way. It's an inner journey. It's self actualization. In otherwords your motivations for what you do come from you.

@Flame of truth Eros who says that I am out of society?

@Lilu
exactly.

i would put women on one side of earth men on the other both work to uphold their side, in the middle of the sides you have an entire circular divide line that in the middle all around you have the home, you have an intercontinental rocket traveling system both men and women work, then fly courtecy of government to the middle where the houses are, thanks to lil Musk, in this fictional reality women would only need about 50 years to realise their currency wont be worth their value in garbage

@Lilu society is only formed by reproduction, which you are not participating in, for society to continue, babies need to be made, you do not want to make babies,

if you don't reproduce there remain millions of people who do

that is the only way to help an entire planet of women realise they cant do stonks

you can contribute more to society as a mgtow than a married couple if you wanted to

@Shad Grimgravy short term yes

But if everyone does it , long term no

we're not really advocating that the entire population goes mgtow