The short answer is I believe that fundamentally a worker is entitled to the full product of their labor

Explain to me in your own words dragon plz

> The short answer is I believe that fundamentally a worker is entitled to the full product of their labor
@Dragoncrash Ben Shapiro debunks why this is stupid

You all just give the word when youre fed up with this 👍

Ping me

Profit is the extraction of excess labor value from the worker: they are then paid a percentage of what their labor is worth in a wage. A capitalist will always pay you for your labor for less than what it’s worth

> You all just give the word when youre fed up with this 👍
@jerpeau this is quality entertainment right here tho

I think inviting random commies here is a recipe for disaster

ok babe

@jerpeau keep this going I'm interested in stupidity

> Profit is the extraction of excess labor value from the worker: they are then paid a percentage of what their labor is worth in a wage. A capitalist will always pay you for your labor for less than what it’s worth
@Dragoncrash then since it’s capitalism, start your own business

@jerpeau I’m not saying we should necessarily end this, but also you and I both know it’s not gonna go anywhere and could potential he go on for two hours with absolutely no results

No. But troll... 😈

> Profit is the extraction of excess labor value from the worker: they are then paid a percentage of what their labor is worth in a wage. A capitalist will always pay you for your labor for less than what it’s worth
@Dragoncrash
But by offering the job in the first place, they make your labor worth more than it would have otherwise been worth.

@Kaladin I'm tryna get some answers hold on

He lost his train of thought

You all agreed?

> @Dragoncrash
> But by offering the job in the first place, they make your labor worth more than it would have otherwise been worth.
@Arkayde No, they simply own the means of production.

@Bear so I can slap him with some cold hard facts

As a farmer, I can grow a lot more wheat with a tractor and combine than I can with a hoe and scythe. That's the added value of capital.

> @Arkayde No, they simply own the means of production.
@Dragoncrash except they don’t

No but they do

Risk is not labor

Labor is what creates value

This is ridiculous man I'm fuckin rollin

This is known as the labor theory of value

First conceived of by Adam Smith

Risk is risk. When the business goes bankrupt, how much do you pay?

And expounded upon by Marx

The ceos have the liability to when it goes bankrupt

So they, in return, get more money

@Lukario chill with the memes. They aren’t adding anything to this conversation. Let’s try to actually have a conversation.

https://youtu.be/3xq-q6a9tCM

ok i'll stop

i'll try to reason with the brainlet

I don't think this conversation is going anywhere

Explain to me why Capitalism has worked for so long than dragon. It's why the U S of fuckin A is the best country in the world and we have the best economy even in this pandemic. @Dragoncrash

I think it is more important to have a civil debate than just make fun of @Dragoncrash