Message from @Nico The Great - CA
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Meaning marrying in one's people is better for marriage/kids
@Sam Anderson I'm in basically the same boat as you. I can't bring myself to believe, but I see how religion can be useful to society. I'm not opposed to Christianity so long as it isn't used to push extreme egalitarianism
As 15ish % of the worlds pop do you wanna give that up/
@Sam Anderson Definitely not, I kinda got that already. It sounds like we're pretty much in agreement then.
Yeah I was chilling with my BJJ bros tonight and I realized how well religion can work for some people
@Nico The Great - CA Mixed teens have higher rates of drug abuse, alcoholism, teen pregnancy, depression, anxiety, suicide, and more (UNC). Hapas have twice the rate of mental illness that Asians do (UC Davis). White male/black female pregnancies are much likelier to be born prematurely (I forget the source). There more out there
As the only explicit atheist in my family yet the only one that will get mad when at family gatherings people eat before Grandma says Grace. I am in an odd position that is uniquely Identitarian.
I hold great respect for tradition, much of which is religious, so I totally understand that
@Sam Anderson I think you're in a unique position. It seems to me that part of your drive from Christianity is the fact that most people around you have not honored tradition as well as you have. There is definitely honor in you
This is why I hate Neo Liberalism so much it makes us into consumer units
and why I get good grades in my Jew professors class because we both do not like the same things for different reasons
"walmart says we should not say grace" no. stfu
Fortunately, I've actually been able to red-pill one of my civ-nat relatives about inter-racial marriages
I hate what the left has done to Christianity, either banishing it from public life or using it to promote anti-white policies under the guise of compassion. Sometimes I don't think it can be made pro-white again.
My mom sponsored a kid in Haiti and my parents' church does mission work in Central America, so maybe that skews my perspective. I've never been to a trad church.
@TMatthews Agreed, I am a devout Christian but I certainly agree with your statement
I personally believe it has to do with the fact that secular morality ("diversity," etc.) now influences Christian morality, instead of the other way around
Some Christians I know are zealously defensive about issues that are clearly anti-Christian (homosexuality, etc.)
Most churches are definitely closer to the secular progressivism of today than the values of Christendom for its first 1,000 years
You'd be pleasantly surprised though, I've heard that many young priests in Catholic seminary are very, VERY right-wing, and they are quietly infiltrating
My mom refers to Christians who oppose gay marriage as bigots and extremists. Her views have nothing to do with what the Bible says. She literally just ignores everything outside of the gospels and attacks those who don't
Totally agreed, I've seen that alot. I actually tried infiltrating a Communist Christian Bible Study, didn't work out too tell tbh
I couldn't stand them, so I left before I caused too much chaos lol
I went to a DSA meeting once. They acknowledged that Cubans and Vietnamese were the most conservative minorities but couldn't make the connection that people who experience their policies hate them
It's definitely mob mentality. One thing I DO like about the "divide" in America in recent years is that it is peeling back the truth and revealing people for what they truly are. It's very clearly that most left-wingers are literal communists in disguise
they don't even hide it anymore
I'll tell you one thing about these modern communists. Not one looked like they'd ever done manual labor. The driving force is cultural Marxism. Economic Marxism is something only added on by those with no real power. Interestingly, the proletariat rejects both and likes policies closer to 3rd position so long as you don't tell them it's fascism
I've noticed that too tbh. I know the horseshoe theory (the left are the REAL nazis) is made fun of, but there is a small grain of truth to it. I think MOST people have a viewpoint on politics that is definitely not in line with either political party
And I think people, when honestly asked, tend to reject both corporatism and degeneracy
Other than lolbertarians and the establishment, nobody loves corporations. Tucker Carlson is the future if conservatives want to have one
The left is anti-white above all else, so they'll tolerate corporations so long as they enforce the right social agenda. They're losing control of their base though
The kind of policies that a lot of communists advocate for are really unsustainable when you have to gain the support of the working class
The actual Soviet Union banned porn, was pretty anti-gay, trannies probably would have been unthinkable, and had closed borders
It's hilarious to see these lefties glorify it
Oh and open borders screw up any socialistic system, so if they want it to even remotely function, they'll close them
Probably part of the reason why the more hardline internationalists like Trotsky got purged when the communists got any real power
Modern leftists would go to the gulag. Of course, their version of communism was brought to the US by Jewish intellectuals who were more Trotskite and not Stalinist
well... also it was somewhat within the Soviet Union's interest to promote this kind of stuff in the US as a form of subversion
Interesting how they had closed borders at home, but all their buddies in the US supported open borders. Rly makes you think 🤔
It's also interesting how both the far right and the far left have people in their ranks that would immediately get cracked down on if any real far left or far right government took power
If the far left took over a country, Antifa would get gulag'ed, and if the far right took over, guys like NSM or Azov probably wouldn't have it too nice
Fringes of politics attract particular types of people, namely disaffected young men.