This server is pretty open minded but a decent bit of the server members just repeat whatever they see on right wing media outlets.

I think that's a good way to go.

Do your due diligence, find what you find, make your own decision.

I agree that people on both sides will just echo what they hear. That's why I believe you need to find your own way with your own effort.

What are your opinions on hate speech and gun control?

hate speech laws are retarded

only gun control that should exist is background checks

So then why do you consider yourself the resident liberal?

Because that's what liberalism (or at least classical liberalism) believes in.

Tell me what you believe in. 🙂

Classical liberalism.

Where do you break away from modern liberals?

Define a modern liberal.

That's what I'm asking you to do lol.

I could make dying whale noises and that would define a modern liberal

lol

The term "modern liberal" makes no sense to me. Are you defining liberalism in the modern era or are you describing a liberal who lives in the modern era?

With the first characterization it should be pretty easy to define "modern liberalism".

In my opinion everything else is a symptom of 3 causes that divide liberals and conservatives: absolute vs relative truth, altruism vs virtue signaling, personal responsibility vs identity politics.

I've never heard of that definition for a liberal. And what you're describing seems to be more of conservative vs sjw.

Helllo

Yes well they call themselves social Justice Warriors but they don't really do Justice that well

It seems that way, which is why I say more and more democrats I've talked to seem to be leaning center instead of left, because the LOUD left is all we hear, and they're insane.

SJWs are, by principle, antithetical to liberalism. Liberals believe in tolerance, (usually) free market capitalism, liberty, the right to free speech, consent of the governed and equality under the law.

I believe SJW's believe that, I don't believe they actually accomplish that.

I feel like you have the right to say whatever you want to but if a bunch of people get mad at you for saying it that's kind of on you

ehhh, it's kind of hard to figure out what SJWs believe in

I believe SJW's and the FAR left are all hypocrites, just the same as the FAR right are hypocrites.

Horseshoe theory pog.

They call everyone bigots, while being bigots. They silence free speech while protesting for free speech. They call people racist while focusing solely on people's race. etc.

I feel like 90% of people fall somewhere between the crazies.

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They act like it's still the 1950s when people would be denied service based on the color of their skin spoiler alert it's 70 years later and very few people like that exist nowadays

I say very few because you know there's still 1 or 2 people like that

Yeah, the statistics and evidence for it is really fucking wacky.

I debate with lefties a lot and they have a decent amount of statistics to back up their arguments but I don't have the time or energy to read through them and really think about it.

Fair enough

I will say though, the justice system targeting blacks for being black sounds retarded.

I totally agree.

And in general, the justice system targeting men for being men is retarded.

I can guarantee if a white guy went out in public and got beaten and killed by a cop nobody would give a damn