Message from @Violin
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True
we are behind in math
But ahead in guns
the murder rate of UK and US are pretty similar... in fact I think the UK might have higher murder rate because the rate people over there poison each other is crazy
so outlawing guns didn't stop the murder rate?
Not random btw
Wait USA has 5 per 100k but japan has .3 per 100k
> so outlawing guns didn't stop the murder rate?
@Meryl.140.15 nope they just found new methods
it's like if someone wants to kill another they'll find a way to do it
> Wait USA has 5 per 100k but japan has .3 per 100k
@Violin yea but Japan is TOTALLY different....
look at countries with somewhat similar cultures....
plus if you look at the justice system in Japan and the conviction rate it is INSANE
which is WHY the crime rate is so low over there......
98% conviction rate or something crazy like that
Ok thanks
look at western countries and stay away from Japan in particular because they are a HUGE outlier when it comes to murder rates
Wait does that make it bad that we don’t convict people who kill?
that isn't what I am saying
I am saying that 98% of people accused of a crime over there go to jail.... the 2% must provide overwhelming evidence that they didn't do it
Ok I get it
reasonable doubt there doesn't exist... look at Europe and Australia more they are closer to the USA culturally than Japan... Japan is strange even to most Asian countries
i heard japan population is decreasing
due to people deciding to date electronics over other people
which is a good thing Meryl.... it is a small nation with over 150m people on it
that is part of it 😛
is it a good thing?
for them yes
Wait but if they have a high conviction rate doesn’t that mean there are less than 0.3 per 100k?
i think the culture is good to
persevere
conviction means they were proven to have committed the crime
murder rate is just the number of people killed by other people
as I said... Japan is strange... to everyone....
i might be ignorant here but isn't america the only place where it's innocent until proven guilty
So if those people are actually innocent should the real rate be lower
there is a saying over there and I am paraphrasing... the nail that sticks out will be hammered down... or something
> So if those people are actually innocent should the real rate be lower
@Violin nope
murder rate has to do with the number of deaths not the number convicted of the crime
you can convict 10 people for the same murder... but it only brings up the murder rate by that 1 death