look at countries with somewhat similar cultures....

plus if you look at the justice system in Japan and the conviction rate it is INSANE

which is WHY the crime rate is so low over there......

98% conviction rate or something crazy like that

Ok thanks

look at western countries and stay away from Japan in particular because they are a HUGE outlier when it comes to murder rates

Wait does that make it bad that we don’t convict people who kill?

that isn't what I am saying

I am saying that 98% of people accused of a crime over there go to jail.... the 2% must provide overwhelming evidence that they didn't do it

Ohhh

Ok I get it

reasonable doubt there doesn't exist... look at Europe and Australia more they are closer to the USA culturally than Japan... Japan is strange even to most Asian countries

i heard japan population is decreasing

due to people deciding to date electronics over other people

which is a good thing Meryl.... it is a small nation with over 150m people on it

that is part of it 😛

is it a good thing?

for them yes

Wait but if they have a high conviction rate doesn’t that mean there are less than 0.3 per 100k?

i think the culture is good to

persevere

conviction means they were proven to have committed the crime

murder rate is just the number of people killed by other people

as I said... Japan is strange... to everyone....

i might be ignorant here but isn't america the only place where it's innocent until proven guilty

So if those people are actually innocent should the real rate be lower

there is a saying over there and I am paraphrasing... the nail that sticks out will be hammered down... or something

> So if those people are actually innocent should the real rate be lower
@Violin nope

murder rate has to do with the number of deaths not the number convicted of the crime

you can convict 10 people for the same murder... but it only brings up the murder rate by that 1 death

it seems like most places it's guilty until you can prove innocence and if you can't prove innocence well then fuck you

So the justice system is just broken there

which is what a lot of these antifa, blm people are trying to turn america into

guilty until proven innocent just like everywhere else

> So the justice system is just broken there
@Violin oh no... it is quite effective

is it?

> is it?
@Meryl.140.15 basically I was referring to if multiple people kill the same person or help kill the same person you can convict all of them but he murder rate won't go up by the number convicted only killed

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sorry I may have misunderstood the question

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