Message from Trashboat in Nice Respectable People Group #general

2018-12-18 19:51:06 UTC  

Ok, but how?

2018-12-18 19:51:12 UTC  

I don’t know much about it

2018-12-18 19:51:24 UTC  

civil war was about slavery like the yellow vest movement is about taxes

2018-12-18 19:51:36 UTC  

States rights vs puritanical crusade to violate all law for their feels

2018-12-18 19:52:05 UTC  

The subject was about slavery but the principle was states rights

2018-12-18 19:52:31 UTC  

Civil war was beginning of end of constitution

2018-12-18 19:52:57 UTC  

But the intention was slavery?

2018-12-18 19:53:16 UTC  

Slavery was a grave error for moral, economic, and memetic reasons. But it would have been better to preserve Constitution.

2018-12-18 19:53:41 UTC  

The reason it was fought was over slavery, the consequences wrote the definition of states rights?

2018-12-18 19:54:19 UTC  

No it's like fighting your neighbor over mowing the lawn but the principle is HOA control

2018-12-18 19:54:38 UTC  

But they weren’t arguing over states rights

2018-12-18 19:54:49 UTC  

A secondary but significant issue was tarrifs

2018-12-18 19:54:50 UTC  

slavery was crucial to the economy.
it was actually designed that way

2018-12-18 19:55:08 UTC  

even plantation owners had to take out loans from the banks to maintain business

2018-12-18 19:55:22 UTC  

all the money went to a small group, as usual

2018-12-18 19:55:32 UTC  

So slavery is small picture

2018-12-18 19:55:34 UTC  

They definitely were arguing over states rights.

2018-12-18 19:55:35 UTC  

Big picture is slavery

2018-12-18 19:55:43 UTC  

Or states rights I meant

2018-12-18 19:55:49 UTC  

Basically yes

2018-12-18 19:56:03 UTC  


2018-12-18 19:56:27 UTC  

true or false; states have/had a right to secede from the union?

2018-12-18 19:56:42 UTC  

For example Lincoln didn't free slaves in North under emancipation proclamation

2018-12-18 19:56:46 UTC  


2018-12-18 19:57:01 UTC  

And he wanted to send all slaves back to Africa

2018-12-18 19:57:08 UTC  

the north had slaves after the civil war lmao

2018-12-18 19:58:03 UTC  

can't wait for when the left call for the removal of the lincoln monument

2018-12-18 19:58:04 UTC  

Vast majority of southern soldiers didn't own slaves. For them it was self rule

2018-12-18 19:58:17 UTC  
2018-12-18 19:58:59 UTC  

and majority of that % were of a non-white tribe

2018-12-18 19:59:27 UTC  

states *had the right to secede. They no longer do after the forceful reconstruction of the so-called union

2018-12-18 19:59:52 UTC  

Robert E Lee was against slavery but believed it would end for economic reasons anyway. He fought out of loyalty to his state over federal over reach.

2018-12-18 20:00:32 UTC  

Robert E Lee was against slavery

2018-12-18 20:00:57 UTC  

mfw the union is just like the EU <:sad:366743316475281408>

2018-12-18 20:01:19 UTC  

from trade to migration, it's the same plan

2018-12-18 20:01:41 UTC  

that being said, now we need to work together more than ever

2018-12-18 20:01:51 UTC  

broke: ending immigration between nations
woke: ending immigration between the States

2018-12-18 20:02:20 UTC  

Honestly we should be able to prevent Californians from leaving their state

2018-12-18 20:02:24 UTC  

Me included

2018-12-18 20:02:52 UTC  

*Californians not permitted entry without standard-issued IE membership card*

2018-12-18 20:03:02 UTC  

@Perihelion - CA no we shouldn't