Someone in the know that Antifa would be there in Trump clothing could have guessed correctly that 'Trump militia' was going to show up - just saying

@tomB63, you just advanced to level 3!

what we saw today was more Beavis and Butthead (and the entire extended family) than Trump militia

I saw several people wearing helmets, goggles, fully covered head to toe in black...

Word play, more or less. 2020 hyperbole.

It wasn't blac block. Some people just wear black.

I suppose. Saying Trump endorsed it seems like a total different matter to me. After all he is The President, why can't he simply declare Martial Law? (Not necessarily saying he should ... especially at this point).

What? I'm saying Trump supporters don't hide their faces.

ah gotcha. Good Point

Did anyone else watch all the videos and fail to see anyone carrying a weapon?

@ryanonsrc You’ve presented him in the best light possible... I would say he definitely understands what the divides in Our country are he exploited them. He has no respect for the constitution the executive branches of Government. He has highlighted the dangers of big tech but only went after 230 because twitter hurt his feelings. But the fact that he highlighted can only be a good thing. He is a compulsive liar and lives in an alternate reality, he carefully choreographs his image and most buy into it. I’m not sure naive is the word, insane...the fact that hen follows Qannon and gets his instructions of social media is more then enough more me. People around him are afraid of his narcissistic personality...they agree with anything he says, those who don’t, get fired. Others just feed his bs because know know he’ll bite....sorry couldn’t sugar coat it, I am also tired so apologies for errors and incoherence.

If you're right, that means that Biden will have even less regard for the constitution...

I saw guns

In the hands of police?

Nobody said bidens a saint.

Both.

ok, let me rephrase... Were any of the people that were shot by the police armed and using deadly force?

I couldn’t say...I know a lady was shot. It’s extremely sad. Let’s leave this one at that...

Also, if Biden has less regard for the constitution then we're in an even worse position than we were. You see, think of the constitution like a castle. The keep is where all the human rights are, the wall and moat are the second amendment. Without the defenses to the castle, it is vulnerable and will fall to siege. That should not be taken lightly!

You want me to leave it at that when other people burned cities down because a black man was shot by the police?

So what was with the running overweight cop with the extendible batton that he dropped and stopped to pick up? That looked like we was going to conduct an orchestra rather than keep security on this most important day ? Hard to imagine he didn't have a gun to stop the intruders at the base of the steps? Even security guards have guns - just wondering.

Rubber bullets or the shot with so many clips circulating?

You think Biden will take our guns? Doubt that will ever happen. Good luck thinking it will.

I'm asking if there was anyone using deadly force that prompted the police to need to use deadly force??

With a democrat majority house and senate and president/vp that want to make it happen.. Yes I do think they will.

It's ok, Its refreshing we can have this friendly, yet spirited, chat here, even though we don't all agree (rare these days). Yes, I may be sugar coating a bit. It would be fair to say that his combination of faults make him somewhat incompetent (being naiive is actually a huge problem, in particular). He has much better reasons going after 230: big tech is monopolizing the information economy, if you'll forgive the expression, and 230 gives them an undeserved safety net. I did forget to mention that he does seem to react too much to criticism, so I wish he would ignore it and just shut up when his statements aren't helping anyone (one of the ways he shoots himself in the foot). But not respecting the branches of the government? Eh, maybe some of the executive orders went a bit far but he was even remotely as authoritarian as the media has made him out to be. I mean, maybe if he wasn't surrounded by all the two-faced handlers "may be" he would have more authoritarian urges being exercised --- an interesting policy I haven't considered but something I have no way to prove. "Compulsive Liar" might be true if you look at some of the fibs he does I guess, but to quote Biden: "Come'on man!", is there a politician that isn't a pathological liar when they have to be?

What does that have to do with today’s events?

Don't deflect!

Deadly force was used extremely sparingly IMO, for the location.

Does that make it right? Right or wrong wasn't part of that statement.

Police have ROEs... Military have ROEs... You can't, even if you're a police officer, use deadly force unless the assailant is attempting to harm you with a deadly weapon. It seems these were ignored! Yet no one is pissed off about it.

I'm not saying burn cities, or anything like that because I don't condone that behavior regardless. But there was no reason that I could see in any of the videos I watched that indicated that the use of deadly force was necessary.

Nobody is deflecting...what does that have to do with anything? Why are you assuming that I support the summer riots or something? It’s you who is deflecting by not stating that what it has to do with the shooting today? Are you feeling okay?

Yeah, this is why we are seeing a dangerous perfect storm brewing. The democrat party has not only gained full power of all branches, they did so in the face of a questionable election ... followed by another during a powder-keg of a political climate. And on top of that the Dem party has been far to receptive to the far-left radicals' insane demands. Yeah, this is all a horrible mess that is getting worse by the day.

At least someone can see it.

Remembering Orwell's 1984, true Authoriatrians have a strong propaganda ministry - in this case the main stream media - as Trump was never in control of a strong media supporting him (95% negative coverage against him) - he would never qualify for a true Orwellian Authoritarian villain IMO

btw: I am being *very* charitable simply saying the Dem party is being far too receptive to far-left radical ideology.

Exactly, I don't see how one could see Trump as ever being an authoritarian with literally the entire deck stacked against him since day one.

Always refreshing! Big tech is definitely monopolizing! He reacts too much to criticizm...highlighting issues that one would usually not pay attention to.

I mean lets be honest: has their ever been a president in the history of the US that has been criticized non-stop by the establishment, the media and press ... a mere 10th of what Trump has experienced? A 100th *maybe*.

Translation: issues YOU are not concerned with.