Message from @Hellishfish

Discord ID: 796158019175448577


2021-01-05 23:24:36 UTC  

I cant do that, sorry, am Jmod. 😔

2021-01-05 23:25:00 UTC  

saying “oh these people have an issue and we should help them” isn’t utilitarianism

2021-01-05 23:25:06 UTC  

As you are being dishonest about yourself.

2021-01-05 23:25:10 UTC  

Lmao how much philosophy have you read?

2021-01-05 23:25:16 UTC  

And this is bad why?

2021-01-05 23:25:16 UTC  

Way less than me I can assure you

2021-01-05 23:25:24 UTC  

@lillian i thought you could send pics in debate channel

2021-01-05 23:25:32 UTC  

they took it away yesterday

2021-01-05 23:25:39 UTC  

after i pinged asking to castrate all white men

2021-01-05 23:25:44 UTC  

LOL

2021-01-05 23:25:52 UTC  

Utilitarianism can be summed up as "happiness good" so if you are making the argument that it makes them happy, you're making a utilitarian argument.

2021-01-05 23:25:58 UTC  

How can you assure that without knowing how much he has read?

2021-01-05 23:26:21 UTC  

As people should be able to be truly themselves, and not pretend to be something theyre not, they should accept their true selves.

2021-01-05 23:26:25 UTC  

Yes you're correct I made an assumption

2021-01-05 23:26:44 UTC  

Because he/she literally didn't know what utilitarianism is

2021-01-05 23:26:49 UTC  

And if they are mentally incapable of this due to an incurable mental illness should they suffer?

2021-01-05 23:27:05 UTC  

So unless he/she lied she must not know what she's talking about

2021-01-05 23:27:12 UTC  

not rly.. utilitarianism simply means we should try to maximize the overall happiness of society and that will improve it eventually. i’m simply saying the only possible psychological solution to gender dysphoria is transitioning therefore we should follow it lol

2021-01-05 23:27:19 UTC  

Wait what?

2021-01-05 23:27:31 UTC  

So your solution is to invert their genitals and swap their hormones?

2021-01-05 23:27:43 UTC  

“Should accept their true selves” - is also transphobic. the irony stings my eyes

2021-01-05 23:27:48 UTC  

Because it makes them happy, and there is no other option, yes.

2021-01-05 23:27:53 UTC  

Sure, jim.

2021-01-05 23:28:00 UTC  

^^

2021-01-05 23:28:15 UTC  

yes

2021-01-05 23:28:17 UTC  

literally yes

2021-01-05 23:28:17 UTC  

I didn't say you were a utilitarian overall I simply said that the argument you were making was a utilitarian argument

2021-01-05 23:28:23 UTC  

there’s no other solution whatsoever

2021-01-05 23:28:28 UTC  

That is the most vile thing i've ever heard.

2021-01-05 23:28:40 UTC  

Do people not deserve to be happy?

2021-01-05 23:28:58 UTC  

it’s still not. the only utilitarian argument i made is that if they’re happier it will make society better but i barely got into that

2021-01-05 23:29:13 UTC  

Why do you think this is?

2021-01-05 23:29:14 UTC  

dude

2021-01-05 23:29:19 UTC  

Can i rape a child if it makes me happy?

2021-01-05 23:29:19 UTC  

How about you let people tell you what their “true selves” are instead of you deciding for them. Hm? Which god wrote the definition of “true self” in stone? Just admit it, genitalia scares you.

2021-01-05 23:29:28 UTC  

can u PLEASE at least propose a different solution??

2021-01-05 23:29:29 UTC  

Why would we care what other do to themselves if it isn’t hurting other people?

2021-01-05 23:29:31 UTC  

It makes the child unhappy. So no.

2021-01-05 23:29:31 UTC  

GG @Signia, you just advanced to level 5!

2021-01-05 23:29:36 UTC  

like u keep saying transitioning is bad

2021-01-05 23:29:41 UTC  

then what do we do?