Message from @Sketchup
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Yeah I'm aware
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But we are paying too much for what we have because of corporatism and military contract corruption
The only function of the state should be to protect against invaders and internal subversion.
And to enforce contracts.
Wait
If you want a state you're a liberal?
This is the purpose of the state in liberalism too
Well market liberalism anyway
That's. More like *classical* liberalism.
Ye
Not anarchism
Which, is much more, like libertarianism.
Libertarianism is a socialist thing though, originally
What
Errr....not sure about that, but.
Capitalist Libertarians are pretty unique to English actually
Libertarianism is a form of liberalism
what type of crack are you smoking
You know what libertarianism i am talking about.
If there were an individualism role I'd assign that to myself. As far right and as far libertarian as possible.
No like libertarianism the label started off as a socialist label
Individualism can be leftist as well, I'm an individualist
Im pretty sure that. Libertarianism was a term adopted by classical liberals once statists started utilizing the term 'liberal'
Disagree with that definition of individualism.
"Libertarianism originated as a form of left-wing politics such as anti-authoritarian and anti-state socialists like anarchists,[6] especially social anarchists,[7] but more generally libertarian communists/Marxists and libertarian socialists.[8][9] These libertarians seek to abolish capitalism and private ownership of the means of production, or else to restrict their purview or effects to usufruct property norms, in favor of common or cooperative ownership and management, viewing private property as a barrier to freedom and liberty.[10][11][12][13]"
Sorry about the bad format
But yeah it's from leftist anarchism
I'm a classical libertarian
It was adopted by capitalists later
Ok. But, Libertarian, is the term It is ***now***.
Still used by socialists mostly in non-english countries
Libertarianism as capitalism is unique to English speakers
Also I dont see How you can be pro Liberty, yet, abolish capitalism and use coercion to have others avoid from bartering for goods and services?
Because the social construct of ownership is inherently coercive
Gross.
It's true
Example:
You wash up on an island, the island is full of berry bushes
These berry bushes are owned by someone, but if you do not eat them you will die
From starvation