Message from @Grape

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2020-12-25 00:21:49 UTC  

i am cross referencing them

2020-12-25 00:21:52 UTC  

I put hopefully in there because current me does not control future me. I may evolve differently than I think

2020-12-25 00:21:57 UTC  

Trump is good fuck what you think

2020-12-25 00:21:58 UTC  

okay then

2020-12-25 00:22:05 UTC  

but based on the idea morality is subjective

2020-12-25 00:22:13 UTC  

you shouldnt care then if you evolve to think its okay

2020-12-25 00:22:22 UTC  

@Buffer we're kinda in the middle of something. There are other inactive debate channels for you to ask in

2020-12-25 00:23:10 UTC  

Can you elaborate. I don't see the connection between whether morality is subjective and if I have a personal moral belief or stake in a future outcome

2020-12-25 00:23:30 UTC  

you presently have the moral belief "genocide is wrong"

2020-12-25 00:23:32 UTC  

I didn’t really ask

2020-12-25 00:23:43 UTC  

I care if I evolve, but obviously if I did evolve in that way, I didn't care

2020-12-25 00:23:49 UTC  

I didn’t ask any question and I said one thing. So eat shit

2020-12-25 00:24:09 UTC  

what?

2020-12-25 00:24:12 UTC  

repeat top

2020-12-25 00:24:22 UTC  

@Buffer rule 2

2020-12-25 00:24:30 UTC  

dont feed the shark

2020-12-25 00:24:44 UTC  

I know. I'm pointing to the rule so I can call a mod in if needed

2020-12-25 00:25:14 UTC  

So what I'm saying is:

I don't control my future self. My present morals do not inherently dictate future morals

2020-12-25 00:25:22 UTC  

okay then

2020-12-25 00:25:25 UTC  

let me put it this way

2020-12-25 00:25:50 UTC  

@WMLC u think anyone cares about the rules

2020-12-25 00:25:52 UTC  

they dont care

2020-12-25 00:26:03 UTC  

im thinking just a sec

2020-12-25 00:26:51 UTC  

so you say morality isnt actually based on society, it is based on individual?

2020-12-25 00:27:47 UTC  

That's why I said it's a shit server lol. I was told it's a debate server and debate inherently needs rules. But I've enjoyed myself since

2020-12-25 00:28:05 UTC  

ok if its a shit server then whyd u say "Oh IlL gEt A mOD IN HErE"

2020-12-25 00:28:18 UTC  

grapistan

2020-12-25 00:28:21 UTC  

it doesnt matter

2020-12-25 00:28:31 UTC  

Morality is personal, shaped by experience and society.

2020-12-25 00:28:54 UTC  

does it exist as a real thing?

2020-12-25 00:29:51 UTC  

or are you in effect saying, there is no morality

2020-12-25 00:32:47 UTC  

are you done talking or just thinking @WMLC

2020-12-25 00:34:57 UTC  

if you dont want to respond i will now make my closing statement

2020-12-25 00:35:40 UTC  

@Norman not how the question is answered

2020-12-25 00:35:54 UTC  

Morality isn’t physical

2020-12-25 00:36:11 UTC  

1. universal claims about morality are incoherent, since morality is subjective and different for everyone
2. "universal claims about morality are incoherent, since morality is subjective and different for everyone" is a subjective statement about morality
3. therefore, premise 1 is not true

2020-12-25 00:36:23 UTC  

something can exist meta physically

2020-12-25 00:37:53 UTC  

Morality is metaphysical or an abstract

2020-12-25 00:38:16 UTC  

yes

2020-12-25 00:38:24 UTC  

meta physical things exist

2020-12-25 00:38:46 UTC  

so i was asking him if he believes morality exists, in the same way we can say numbers exist, or logic exists, or personal identity exists