Message from @Norman

Discord ID: 791823045140021248


2020-12-25 00:17:02 UTC  

would you oppose it?

2020-12-25 00:17:28 UTC  

Ah, well no. I don't believe in genocide as a good thing.

2020-12-25 00:17:33 UTC  

well wait

2020-12-25 00:17:40 UTC  

if the society deems it okay

2020-12-25 00:17:44 UTC  

i thought it was good?

2020-12-25 00:18:03 UTC  

so you would resist, until the society decided it was okay, then you would stop resisting?

2020-12-25 00:19:23 UTC  

Society shapes the formation of morals, but morality is personal. A person does not always reflect society, but they can adapt to it

I would resist genocide and hopefully always would. I would like to think I'd never capitulate to a genocidal moral scheme

2020-12-25 00:19:30 UTC  

well wait

2020-12-25 00:19:34 UTC  

"hopefully always would"

2020-12-25 00:19:48 UTC  

you said if you were raised thinking genocide was fine, then it would be okay to do it

2020-12-25 00:21:00 UTC  

I said it's impossible to answer actually.

I entertained that if I was raised AND never exposed to an alternate I would be ok with it because that society would have formed my morality

2020-12-25 00:21:07 UTC  

no

2020-12-25 00:21:14 UTC  

you said "I would resist genocide and hopefully always would."

2020-12-25 00:21:19 UTC  

hopefully key word

2020-12-25 00:21:35 UTC  

That was a different answer to a different question.

2020-12-25 00:21:45 UTC  

yes

2020-12-25 00:21:49 UTC  

i am cross referencing them

2020-12-25 00:21:52 UTC  

I put hopefully in there because current me does not control future me. I may evolve differently than I think

2020-12-25 00:21:57 UTC  

Trump is good fuck what you think

2020-12-25 00:21:58 UTC  

okay then

2020-12-25 00:22:05 UTC  

but based on the idea morality is subjective

2020-12-25 00:22:13 UTC  

you shouldnt care then if you evolve to think its okay

2020-12-25 00:22:22 UTC  

@Buffer we're kinda in the middle of something. There are other inactive debate channels for you to ask in

2020-12-25 00:23:10 UTC  

Can you elaborate. I don't see the connection between whether morality is subjective and if I have a personal moral belief or stake in a future outcome

2020-12-25 00:23:30 UTC  

you presently have the moral belief "genocide is wrong"

2020-12-25 00:23:32 UTC  

I didn’t really ask

2020-12-25 00:23:43 UTC  

I care if I evolve, but obviously if I did evolve in that way, I didn't care

2020-12-25 00:23:49 UTC  

I didn’t ask any question and I said one thing. So eat shit

2020-12-25 00:24:09 UTC  

what?

2020-12-25 00:24:12 UTC  

repeat top

2020-12-25 00:24:22 UTC  

@Buffer rule 2

2020-12-25 00:24:30 UTC  

dont feed the shark

2020-12-25 00:24:44 UTC  

I know. I'm pointing to the rule so I can call a mod in if needed

2020-12-25 00:25:14 UTC  

So what I'm saying is:

I don't control my future self. My present morals do not inherently dictate future morals

2020-12-25 00:25:22 UTC  

okay then

2020-12-25 00:25:25 UTC  

let me put it this way

2020-12-25 00:25:50 UTC  

@WMLC u think anyone cares about the rules

2020-12-25 00:25:52 UTC  

they dont care

2020-12-25 00:26:03 UTC  

im thinking just a sec

2020-12-25 00:26:51 UTC  

so you say morality isnt actually based on society, it is based on individual?

2020-12-25 00:27:47 UTC  

That's why I said it's a shit server lol. I was told it's a debate server and debate inherently needs rules. But I've enjoyed myself since