Message from @nathaniel

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2021-01-05 00:30:09 UTC  

Not really

2021-01-05 00:30:15 UTC  

They are about as common as having red hair

2021-01-05 00:30:19 UTC  

but sure I'll concede the point that intersex is a third sex if you want to put it that way

2021-01-05 00:30:36 UTC  

According to the world health organization*

2021-01-05 00:30:43 UTC  

but it is not down to personal opinion and what they feel like

2021-01-05 00:30:43 UTC  

GG @Lizard Wizard, you just advanced to level 2!

2021-01-05 00:30:55 UTC  

There are also people with more x chromosomes

2021-01-05 00:31:13 UTC  

The only way to truly tell what your sex is is to get it checked

2021-01-05 00:31:21 UTC  

Chromosome examination

2021-01-05 00:31:21 UTC  

GG @nathaniel, you just advanced to level 2!

2021-01-05 00:31:31 UTC  

something like 0.5-1.5% are born intersex iirc

2021-01-05 00:31:46 UTC  

Many people have XXY and dont even know their entire lives

2021-01-05 00:32:25 UTC  

is that all you're arguing?

2021-01-05 00:32:28 UTC  

.

2021-01-05 00:32:55 UTC  

That would mean 117,000-351,000 people on the planet

2021-01-05 00:32:57 UTC  

Still a lot

2021-01-05 00:33:46 UTC  

Just saying that gender is a social construct and not just a set "guy or girl" type thing

2021-01-05 00:33:53 UTC  

gender dysphoria is/was a mental disorder

2021-01-05 00:34:03 UTC  

just because you believe something to be true doesn't make it true

2021-01-05 00:34:20 UTC  

no sure there is intersex

2021-01-05 00:34:37 UTC  

That is exacrly the point. They didn't care bc it didn't affect them. Gender only became popular in the early modern era

2021-01-05 00:35:02 UTC  

Not saying it does. Im saying gender is a spectrum

2021-01-05 00:35:14 UTC  

why would you give trans people hormones if biological realities don't alter behaviour and personality.

2021-01-05 00:35:29 UTC  

it's because they do

2021-01-05 00:35:38 UTC  

Thats not what this is about tho-

2021-01-05 00:35:43 UTC  

I'm not saying biology is everything because it certainly isn't

2021-01-05 00:35:48 UTC  

I am talking about the mental aspect of it

2021-01-05 00:35:55 UTC  

Gender is an identity

2021-01-05 00:35:57 UTC  

A concept

2021-01-05 00:36:22 UTC  

but you can't reduce gender to a social construct is jus

2021-01-05 00:36:34 UTC  

the terms gender and sex were interchangable for the longest time

2021-01-05 00:36:44 UTC  

Only in english

2021-01-05 00:36:52 UTC  

in many jurisdictions they're interchangeable

2021-01-05 00:36:54 UTC  

Most indo-european languages don't have a difference

2021-01-05 00:37:00 UTC  

Because of culture

2021-01-05 00:37:08 UTC  

But I won't explain that unless you ask

2021-01-05 00:37:52 UTC  

europeans did not see gender as a social construct no

2021-01-05 00:37:56 UTC  

Not invalidating gender. Just saying that gender did exist in European society; it just was not relevant

2021-01-05 00:38:04 UTC  

I never said gender was not real

2021-01-05 00:38:12 UTC  

Just that it was invented as a form of identity

2021-01-05 00:38:18 UTC  

Thats the problem