no sure there is intersex

That is exacrly the point. They didn't care bc it didn't affect them. Gender only became popular in the early modern era

Not saying it does. Im saying gender is a spectrum

why would you give trans people hormones if biological realities don't alter behaviour and personality.

it's because they do

Thats not what this is about tho-

I'm not saying biology is everything because it certainly isn't

I am talking about the mental aspect of it

Gender is an identity

A concept

but you can't reduce gender to a social construct is jus

the terms gender and sex were interchangable for the longest time

Only in english

in many jurisdictions they're interchangeable

Most indo-european languages don't have a difference

Because of culture

But I won't explain that unless you ask

europeans did not see gender as a social construct no

Not invalidating gender. Just saying that gender did exist in European society; it just was not relevant

I never said gender was not real

Just that it was invented as a form of identity

Thats the problem

because it isn't

They said "this is how it is supposed to be"

And try to impress this idea on every culture they colonized

Generally

Not on a specific basis*

Gender roles isn't a european idea lmao

They are an idea almost everywhere

Im saying only Europe pushed it on other people

wdym push it on other people, they already had gender roles themselves before europeans came

gender is not an identity is a biological scientific thing

also it is improper to say all europeans did

only some european nations did any of that

It's not supposed to be a rebuttal. Im agreeing with you to a certain extent

Exactly. Thats my point. Some west African cultures had 5 genders until Europe said "follow our rules" (colonization)

?

Im just saying gender differs across culture. Thats literally all

no what I meant was that the idea that all the countries colonized by european countries had other gender roles is just false

you may find some very specific examples

It is a spectrum. There aren't just 2. Maybe in Western culture but not in all of them. Just saying to be open to the fact that not all cultures follow the 2 gender system and thats okay