Yes

Because it’s developing.. If it were dead, it wouldn’t continue to grow as it does.

That's.... Not how it works

A particle in space continues to grow

That doesn't make it alive

The Himalayas are growing

That doesn't make them alive

You’re comparing an infant to a particle?

This is a different argument, the difference is we know the infant is alive. It will become a person. A particle will not.

That's what I saying. It's a blob of flesh.

There is life at the moment of conception

Yeah but at what point exactly is it alive?

So a dead man is alive?

Nope.

Decomposition sets in. He no longer has potential to live.

He has. We don't have the technology.

Right.. if we don’t have the technology, he doesn’t have the potential

Uhhh.. That's not how tech works

God knows if we will ever get the technology

We always had the potential to use Google through our fingers

Not the tech

No, no. The potential, as in the ability and the resources to do so.

Yeah well we always had fingers no?

No. You don’t while in early stages of development.

See point is, before a heartbeat, the fetus is a collection of cells. And you can argue that it has the potential to grow, but that potential can't be achieved without the mother. Put the fetus out of the womb it's dead

So on its own

It's dead

Just like a dead man

Is this another abortion debate?

No shit. But essentially, it won’t get outside of the womb on its own.

Yes.

Unless a miscarriage

But that’s a different discussion

What's even the point of saying this? I am arguing that on its own the fetus is as good as dead before a heartbeat

No it's not

Without the mother. Without chemo, many people are good as dead. Should we just kill ‘em now, because they rely on something else to live?

Once the zygote has implanted itself on the uterine wall it is a separate living being

Right. Has an individual genetic code.

There is a difference b/w helped stay alive and becoming alive

By which definition?

It has become alive at fertilization