Message from @Arnold Jacobs is legend

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2020-12-12 15:36:24 UTC  

Eh idk about source of infection. But they are not good at protecting others from getting the virus

2020-12-12 15:37:03 UTC  

Literal social distancing is the one thing works well. And nobody is social distancing nor will they ever.

2020-12-12 15:38:24 UTC  

And I believe everyone has a right to not grillos such benign rules like being forced to be 6ft away from your grandma when she wants you by her side.

Masks don’t do much as the virus can ricochet from the front and escape from the opening of the masks surrounding the cheek.

2020-12-12 15:59:03 UTC  

A mask is a source of infection when it's not used properly. For one, masks shouldn't be re used they should be tossed out but people put them in their pockets and touch the outsides and all that.

2020-12-13 04:49:54 UTC  

Viruses are 100x smaller than bacteria. Masks are designed to filter bacteria in larger deposits such as droplets. Thats why theyre used by surgeons. (Haha a surgeon is digging in my shoulder in a week) They aren’t a catch all for them, and there is no evidence they are effective at filtering viruses which are once again 100x smaller. Respirators unlike masks are designed to filter out microbes like viruses, but obviously mandating respirators is impossible due to cost and a lack of mass quantity of them. Mandating masks may help at an initial close encounter with someone but if you are going to be around people for more than just a walk by than there is no evidence a mask will protect you. The best protection is just to distance yourself, which should be your decision and not the government’s esp given the low fatality rate.

2020-12-13 05:32:54 UTC  

Masks work if the virus isn't airborne. If the virus is airborne, you switch from a surgical mask to an n95 mask. Covid isn't airborne

2020-12-13 05:33:00 UTC  

I work in healthcare lol

2020-12-13 05:34:00 UTC  

If you're in close quarters with someone and you're talking to them, masks will help you with not getting the virus. This is why many nurses can deal with covid patients everyday and not get the virus themselves.

2020-12-13 05:35:07 UTC  

With that being said, covid is overplayed. It's more dangerous obvs for those with pre existing conditions or auto immune diseases, but it's not like their chances of death are 100%

2020-12-13 05:36:46 UTC  

With covid, the virus can be transferred through any openings into the body. So eyes, mouth, nose, and genitals. Washing your hands imo does much more than wearing a mask. Assume that everything you touch has the virus, then wash your hands before you eat or as soon as you get home or whatever

2020-12-13 18:24:28 UTC  

N95 is a respirator mask fyi lol, also my mom wore a mask as a nurse and got covid.

2020-12-13 18:25:23 UTC  

Also the CDC says the virus is airborne if you believe them

2020-12-13 18:26:02 UTC  

Js

2020-12-13 18:32:24 UTC  

(My mom was an oncology nurse but unfortunately she didnt have a respirator)

2020-12-13 20:27:50 UTC  

I work in oncology as well. They say it's airborne because the droplets could be suspended in the air for a bit, but the virus itself isn't airborne. It's not like tuberculosis where you would need an n95. Nurses are at risk because they deal with covid patients. When those patients go to the washroom, when they cough in their hands and touch things like doorknobs, etc etc anything can be a surface of contact and then if you were to touch it and let's say you rubbed your eye later on without throughly washing your hands, you could get it

2020-12-13 20:28:48 UTC  

Front line workers will always be more at risk because they're literally around people with covid for long periods of times and the any contact surface object could potentially have covid on it

2020-12-13 20:29:27 UTC  

For the average aindividual, my point still stands that as mask is better than no mask as long as one understands exactly how it works and what else they need to do to protect themselves

2020-12-13 20:30:59 UTC  

For example, if I have a mask on and you have a mask on and we're close to each other and talking face to face, my spit isn't going to somehow float to the side of my mask, escape, then somehow fly over, and float into the side of your mask, go into your mouth and infect you, that isn't how it works

2020-12-13 20:32:34 UTC  

You dont need an n95 for covid as its not a true airborne disease like tuberculosis

2020-12-13 21:31:48 UTC  

It is airborne and droplet

2020-12-13 21:32:51 UTC  

I never said a mask wasnt better than no mask, but unless its a respirator its ineffective at filtering the virus

2020-12-13 21:34:54 UTC  

I can assure my mom needed a respirator....

2020-12-15 03:10:28 UTC  

We don't use respirators here on the covid wards and we are fine

2020-12-15 03:10:47 UTC  

If the disease was airborne, a lot more people would be getting it, and social distancing wouldn't work at all

2020-12-15 03:11:56 UTC  

" Airborne transmission of SARS-CoV-2 can occur during medical procedures that generate aerosols (“aerosol generating procedures”).(12) WHO, together with the scientific community, has been actively discussing and evaluating whether SARS-CoV-2 may also spread through aerosols in the absence of aerosol generating procedures, particularly in indoor settings with poor ventilation."

2020-12-15 03:12:39 UTC  

"Experimental studies have generated aerosols of infectious samples using high-powered jet nebulizers under controlled laboratory conditions. These studies found SARS-CoV-2 virus RNA in air samples within aerosols for up to 3 hours in one study (21) and 16 hours in another, which also found viable replication-competent virus.(22) These findings were from experimentally induced aerosols that do not reflect normal human cough conditions."

2020-12-15 03:13:54 UTC  

A respirator would work in an environment where aerosols occurred, which doesn't typically happen even in normal hospital wards

2020-12-15 03:20:52 UTC  

"TB bacteria are spread through the air from one person to another. The TB bacteria are put into the air when a person with TB disease of the lungs or throat coughs, speaks, or sings. People nearby may breathe in these bacteria and become infected."

2020-12-15 03:21:32 UTC  

TB is spread without introducing aerosols that don't reflect normal human coughing conditions.

2020-12-15 03:21:41 UTC  

That's a true airborne disease

2020-12-15 03:21:47 UTC  

who wants to disucss fiscal policy

2020-12-15 03:21:53 UTC  

Hey

2020-12-15 03:21:56 UTC  

hello

2020-12-15 03:21:57 UTC  

where you from AC?

2020-12-15 03:22:01 UTC  

what is ac?

2020-12-15 03:22:03 UTC  

Your username sounds familiar

2020-12-15 03:22:10 UTC  

America's Conservatives discord server

2020-12-15 03:22:19 UTC  

probally

2020-12-15 03:22:25 UTC  

banned from alot of conservative servers

2020-12-15 03:22:29 UTC  

i go around try to debate people