Message from @vbonecrusher1014

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2020-12-15 03:25:02 UTC  

I'm from Canada, we have all of those except for free college

2020-12-15 03:25:10 UTC  

Free college only available for natives

2020-12-15 03:25:35 UTC  

Oh and we have universal healthcare

2020-12-15 03:27:28 UTC  

public

2020-12-15 03:27:36 UTC  

im for a public option tbh

2020-12-15 03:27:50 UTC  

m4a not so much, but more so pragmatic reasons/political

2020-12-15 03:27:56 UTC  

So 100% funded by gov't?

2020-12-15 03:28:23 UTC  

public option is similar to like Germany or France, granted in the us it would be somewhat different

2020-12-15 03:28:32 UTC  

its a option

2020-12-15 03:28:38 UTC  

if you want goverment healthcare you get it

2020-12-15 03:28:48 UTC  

I'd want private school to be included as an option

2020-12-15 03:28:48 UTC  

hospitals would still be private

2020-12-15 03:28:51 UTC  

Doesn't mean it will be good but you'll get it

2020-12-15 03:28:51 UTC  

not all public

2020-12-15 03:29:04 UTC  

wdym in the us private school is an option

2020-12-15 03:29:24 UTC  

as for healthcare, the best system currently is a mix of both public and private, unless it can be treated like a business and lower costs

2020-12-15 03:29:41 UTC  

No I'm just saying I wouldn't want all schooling to be public

2020-12-15 03:29:53 UTC  

I would want private in as well. Also Canada has private, I went to a private school lol

2020-12-15 03:30:17 UTC  

i mean, countries with socialized medicine do pay less per capita, but the issue is sense there is political tensions you run into shortages of for example mris( your from canada you should know).

2020-12-15 03:30:21 UTC  

its not a economic constraint

2020-12-15 03:30:25 UTC  

its just politicans being dumb

2020-12-15 03:30:34 UTC  

Yup long waiting lists

2020-12-15 03:30:35 UTC  

atleast in the us its not a economic one its a political one

2020-12-15 03:30:54 UTC  

ya ik

2020-12-15 03:30:57 UTC  

Yeah that's no bueno

2020-12-15 03:31:30 UTC  

So I agree, the option to have private would be nice.

2020-12-15 03:31:33 UTC  

healthcare I mean

2020-12-15 03:31:39 UTC  

good we can agree

2020-12-15 03:31:59 UTC  

Probs not much for debating between us, but I can see how healthcare is an ongoing debate in the US

2020-12-15 03:32:17 UTC  

yes because politicians dog whistle and strawman

2020-12-15 03:32:19 UTC  

its sad

2020-12-15 03:32:24 UTC  

Since it's extremely politicized

2020-12-15 03:32:25 UTC  

and republicans(alot of dems to) fall for it

2020-12-15 03:32:41 UTC  

@Mystika you seem smart look into modern monetary theory when you get a chance

2020-12-15 03:32:42 UTC  

Also big pharma, you guys pay like $100+ for insulin and here we pay less than $30

2020-12-15 03:32:47 UTC  

Waiting lists and the inability to get fast treatments is a recurring struggle for countries with free public healthcare. You can look at Canada with their waiting lists. Even some of the countries that people think are the best have horrible wait times. Norway is an example. You can wait years with a terrible issue that makes life hell just to get treatment. Taxes are ridiculously high as well, but I already know it would be argued that the free healthcare makes up for it. People in these countries tend to get private healthcare as soon as they can if they intend on using it.

2020-12-15 03:33:02 UTC  

That is why I think Canada should have a private option also

2020-12-15 03:33:04 UTC  

Which we don't

2020-12-15 03:33:17 UTC  

taxes dont fund federal programs in the us

2020-12-15 03:33:21 UTC  

For those who have the money and want to choose the care they get

2020-12-15 03:33:24 UTC  

idc about taxes atleast for now