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2020-08-24 21:37:54 UTC  

very itneresting though for sure

2020-08-24 21:38:36 UTC  

I dont think he is trying to forge a Utopia, what makes you say that? Im curious.

2020-08-24 21:38:39 UTC  

and thanks for watching it

2020-08-24 21:38:44 UTC  

his last comments

2020-08-24 21:39:18 UTC  

Well right now our society is structured around Equality, which is a false God. He is saying that if we forego that then society will be better. not a utopia

2020-08-24 21:39:57 UTC  

In fact the very existence of the Welfare System itself is based on the concept of equality and its importance.

2020-08-24 21:40:12 UTC  

well that's jsut a false Struggle

2020-08-24 21:40:32 UTC  

the struggle for equality, just like he beleives there should be a darwinian struggle of the innate fittest

2020-08-24 21:40:40 UTC  

all leftwing ideolgoy is based on the Struggle

2020-08-24 21:40:49 UTC  

> the struggle for equality, just like he beleives there should be a darwinian struggle of the innate fittest
@Japheth
that exists whether we like it or not honestly.

2020-08-24 21:41:23 UTC  

no it doesn't

2020-08-24 21:41:38 UTC  

the Struggle is a lie basically

2020-08-24 21:41:39 UTC  

Especially before modernity. But even now it exists. The struggle for survival. If we were not struggling for survival and for the future generations, we would have never invented agriculture.

2020-08-24 21:41:58 UTC  

not at all

2020-08-24 21:42:01 UTC  

how so

2020-08-24 21:43:08 UTC  

because the true way is obedience to God and that God will provide and that God's is perfectly ordered and even in the beginning before Man fell due to the lies of the animal and the world, that Man was good and that he was like God being in God's image

2020-08-24 21:43:32 UTC  

it's only after Man succumbs to the world and becomes more and more worldly that he strays from God and loses his godlikeness

2020-08-24 21:44:12 UTC  

once they cleave to lies, that's when the Struggle begins, but in the Truth there is no Struggle

2020-08-24 21:44:39 UTC  

I fundamentally disagree with that honestly.

2020-08-24 21:45:06 UTC  

Life itself is a struggle. Knowing and receiving God aids us in our struggle.

2020-08-24 21:45:17 UTC  

Because we know how to order a society, among other things.

2020-08-24 21:45:20 UTC  

no because that's not the true life

2020-08-24 21:45:48 UTC  

it will end in death because they were tainted by the world

2020-08-24 21:46:06 UTC  

Well we all meet our end in death.

2020-08-24 21:46:24 UTC  

but the true life is in God, and we see when God destroys the earth and the righteous live in New Jerusalem there will be no struggle, there will be no death

2020-08-24 21:46:37 UTC  

One could say that us discovering microbiology. Really really was a big leap in our struggle for survival on this planet.

2020-08-24 21:46:42 UTC  

That frankly seeks to kill you.

2020-08-24 21:47:24 UTC  

the struggle for survival is an artificial struggle, that is it is a lie to make them conform more and more to the earth

2020-08-24 21:47:29 UTC  

> but the true life is in God, and we see when God destroys the earth and the righteous live in New Jerusalem there will be no struggle, there will be no death
@Japheth

I agree with this but until that day.

2020-08-24 21:47:37 UTC  

We must live as we are, while knowing God of course.

2020-08-24 21:47:46 UTC  

And striving to live up to that end.

2020-08-24 21:48:04 UTC  

Survival isn't the foremost important thing by any means. But it certainly cannot be ignored.

2020-08-24 21:48:25 UTC  

no you can't strive against the Maker, because that is what the earth does and that's why it will be destroyed

2020-08-24 21:48:40 UTC  

If even just to spread the word of God. You have to be alive for example, to spread the word of God itself.

2020-08-24 21:48:48 UTC  

Which he does call us to do.

2020-08-24 21:48:57 UTC  

To make ourselves missionaries of his Word.

2020-08-24 21:49:37 UTC  

yea but to do that rather than struggle against God, one must instead surrender and obey

2020-08-24 21:50:08 UTC  

there is no struggle in obedience

2020-08-24 21:50:37 UTC  

Absolutely there is. Do you not think Jesus himself was struggling in his encounter with Satan himself? In the desert?

2020-08-24 21:50:49 UTC  

and if you were in that situation you'd struggle a lot more then jesus did

2020-08-24 21:50:51 UTC  

thats for sure.