Message from @Japheth

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2020-09-25 00:42:01 UTC  

no it didn't, the pilgrims were still subjects of Britain

2020-09-25 00:42:31 UTC  

what about the plymouth colony

2020-09-25 00:42:35 UTC  

but that is where the puritanical sorta roots that are still somewhat around in the Old North part of USA coem from indeed

2020-09-25 00:42:49 UTC  

lol the keyword there is colony, a colony belogns to a greater national power

2020-09-25 00:43:14 UTC  

k

2020-09-25 00:43:21 UTC  

was still a theocracy tho

2020-09-25 00:43:50 UTC  

no it wasn't, but it did lay down a firm religious culture in the USA

2020-09-25 00:44:15 UTC  

the church leaders and governing authorities were one in the same, no?

2020-09-25 00:44:32 UTC  

no, it's a colony of Britain

2020-09-25 00:44:52 UTC  

though you could argue in Britain the monarch is the head of the church

2020-09-25 00:45:13 UTC  

no i mean the church leaders that were in america were also in charge of governing

2020-09-25 00:45:23 UTC  

not always

2020-09-25 00:45:38 UTC  

sometiems they were though because you just figure they're the most educated

2020-09-25 00:45:59 UTC  

but i mean you have military figures of course also in leadership positions

2020-09-25 00:46:02 UTC  

if you look at certain colonies they were justifying their laws and statutes with Biblical arguments

2020-09-25 00:46:08 UTC  

seems like a theocracy to me

2020-09-25 00:46:46 UTC  

it's not a theocracy, not that there's anything wrong with theocracy, it's jsut not how it was though, but indeed it laid down an undeniable Christian foudnation for America

2020-09-25 00:47:01 UTC  

we might disagree on semantics of what a theocracy is then

2020-09-25 00:47:15 UTC  

but the important point is it had christian foundations

2020-09-25 00:47:23 UTC  

well from what you say we probably actually agree what a theocracy is

2020-09-25 00:48:36 UTC  

heck to bring us around to the biblical question; the SCOTUS building has in its artwork and motiffs heavy call back to religion since religion is fundamental to the Theory of Law

2020-09-25 00:49:23 UTC  

jsut about all SCOTUS justices are either jews or catholics too interestingly

2020-09-25 00:49:57 UTC  

the early colonies were basing all their laws and administration on Biblical arguments, and the church leaders and chapelins were in charge of governing. i dont see how this isnt a theocratic way of organizing things?

2020-09-25 00:50:09 UTC  

this has become a minor issue obviously with the vetting of that woman Barrett that Trump seems likely to nominate tomorrow.

2020-09-25 00:50:14 UTC  

i mean the early early settlers

2020-09-25 00:50:42 UTC  

not the thirteen colonies later on

2020-09-25 00:52:02 UTC  

well the early colonies weren't independent nations for one so one could still chock it up to them being vassals of Britain (and indeed this racial and colonial past is where the heavy influence of English Common Law enters America's foundation.) Also things weren't so clear cut when they did establish the colonies cause you know a bunch of pagan savages were encroaching on our land until they got manifest destiny'd outta here

2020-09-25 00:52:45 UTC  

which when coming into conflict this is where the more militaristic people came in, and of course in times of hardship and war military type law has to come into effect simply for survival

2020-09-25 00:53:32 UTC  

Israel was supposed to be a light unto the nation's, but if she can't even take care of her own, I don't expect much. Generally I deal with men of my own stock but I try to make my advice useful for anyone. Black, white, Asian. What you see in this country is being orchestrated by godless elite and Pharisees so they can subdue the west and thus use the military and financial prowess of our nation's to subjugate the world. Many are going to perish being caught in this game. These people pushing "civil rights" are nothing more than agitators. They get you riled up to attack one another and they use that to put their people in power. They're not on your side. They invite you here, garnish money from taxpayers who are mostly white, and give these people lavish welfare to perpetuate the madness. Anyone with any sense left in them has ascertained by now this isn't sustainable. The damages are already done. The right wing is controlled by these same people. You can't vote yourself out of this mess. Only God can get you out of this mess and he left us with a direction, which was to identify Babylon, leave it, and then go "into the wilderness where he has prepared a place for you." Various locations in the US already have black, white, homogenous communities that are far away from the savagery going on downtown and I would link up with them and get something going for you. Start with the basics. God bless

2020-09-25 00:54:02 UTC  

well that's part of the thing too that some of the settlements weren't even called colonies until later on in retrospect, after they became subject to britain

2020-09-25 00:55:44 UTC  

but i hear what you're saying

2020-09-25 00:56:55 UTC  

yea but they were still subjects of britain (or france or spain depending where they were) they weren't independent nations, but i mean you're still right in terms of religion being in America's foundation, it's simply inseparable from America's history and culture

2020-09-25 00:56:56 UTC  

i know he's a bit popular and worn out but even john winthrop helped give early american settlers a reputation for being a uniquely Christian nation

2020-09-25 00:57:28 UTC  

"religion being in America's foundation, it's simply inseparable from America's history and culture" yea for me this is the important part

2020-09-25 00:57:48 UTC  

people today want to try to twist our history to make it sound like we're supposed to be inherently secular

2020-09-25 00:58:54 UTC  

even with the foundation of the USA proper religion was still important, obviously the whole idea of the Declaration of Independence is derived from the notion that God grants man rights, this shows through in the Constitution which merely puts rules on the government and not the People like some think, and of course the Treaty of Paris

2020-09-25 01:02:34 UTC  

aight

2020-09-25 01:02:41 UTC  

good talk, i gotta do something quick

2020-09-25 01:02:50 UTC  

yea have a good one

2020-09-26 02:39:38 UTC  

it should be a man; but its gonna be a woman. luckily its not going to be a wyman.

2020-09-26 12:17:35 UTC  

Tomorrow is Day of Atonement.