Message from @Japheth

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2020-09-16 21:47:22 UTC  

well no because you don't repeat the bible verses like one repeats the mantras and chants because the object isn't to thik abotu a mantra or chant, it's to kill the thoughts, hence what i am meaning by it's the opposite of meditation

2020-09-16 21:47:47 UTC  

You don't have to repeat mantras to meditate

2020-09-16 21:47:53 UTC  

He doesn't chant as frequently but it's the same technique

2020-09-16 21:48:00 UTC  

Yeah directly from the Bible it says hold all thoughts into captivity

2020-09-16 21:48:07 UTC  

Its repetitive

2020-09-16 21:48:20 UTC  

Why does that mean meditate

2020-09-16 21:48:56 UTC  

It also says not to practice the faith the way pagans and heathens do we are meant to be separate a light in the dark

2020-09-16 21:49:03 UTC  

well indeed in buddhist pagan witchcraft and other oriental witchcraft traditions one repeats mantras or chants because the object is to cultivate thoughts, literally to meditate, upon such things in order to cultivate and essentialyl brainwash yourself into their religion

2020-09-16 21:49:30 UTC  

I quit my amazon job on the first day. Saw a huge BLM mural on the wall. No thanks.

2020-09-16 21:49:33 UTC  

@willow wisp yeah it does have a very similar technique to help relax your mind but the the outcome is very different

2020-09-16 21:50:17 UTC  

So its mixing christianity and paganism

2020-09-16 21:50:32 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/457991466174906368/755908506531397693/117350146_734598503776961_1374747605716932963_n.jpg

2020-09-16 21:50:45 UTC  

well the silent prayer technique is opposite, it is to still yourself and be in silence, the object being to essentially quiet the mind and remove thought

2020-09-16 21:50:47 UTC  

😂

2020-09-16 21:51:00 UTC  

That's part of meditation

2020-09-16 21:51:15 UTC  

That is literally the first step

2020-09-16 21:51:33 UTC  

That smile emoji was for the meme not japheth

2020-09-16 21:51:35 UTC  

how can that be part of meditation if the entire point of meditation is to rather cultivate thought or focus on a thought via mantra, chants, etc.?

2020-09-16 21:52:02 UTC  

@willow wisp you can call what you want honestly and if you end up trying it and it works that's great if not then don't do it

2020-09-16 21:52:05 UTC  

It's the first step meaning there are other steps that later involve said things look it up

2020-09-16 21:52:57 UTC  

from what i looked up, which was really just the meaning of the word meditate, which indeed i all ready knew, it says this;

2020-09-16 21:53:09 UTC  

meditate
[ˈmedəˌtāt]
VERB
think deeply or focus one's mind for a period of time, in silence or with the aid of chanting, for religious or spiritual purposes or as a method of relaxation.

2020-09-16 21:53:18 UTC  

(meditate on/upon)
think deeply or carefully about (something).

2020-09-16 21:53:24 UTC  

That is a summary of what it is not the steps

2020-09-16 21:53:27 UTC  

plan mentally; consider.

2020-09-16 21:53:29 UTC  

Look up a video

2020-09-16 21:53:58 UTC  

Of someone meditating and then compare it to the silent prayer

2020-09-16 21:55:13 UTC  

i think superficially it can appear outwardly that they're doing the same thing, but if one meditates while doing the silent prayer than they're not really doing the silent prayer. to the converse if one is trying to meditate and does the silent prayer then they're not realyl meditating

2020-09-16 21:55:31 UTC  

@willow wisp dude it's definitely not a cult cuz I still am a Catholic and it's not the most popular thing to be on here but nobody gives me shit and if they want to they can I suggest just keep watching and take from it what you want you know and if it's not for you that's what's up and if it is that's cool too sometimes just watching The Savage moments can do it for somebody

2020-09-16 21:56:06 UTC  

So basically it's cool to mix christianity with paganism bc jesse says and not what god says

2020-09-16 21:56:23 UTC  

no

2020-09-16 21:56:58 UTC  

@willow wisp you're reading into it a little too much man I mean if you already have a strong foundation of Faith then run with that and just watch it like it's a comedy show I'm willing to bet you still will get something out of that anyway

2020-09-16 21:57:00 UTC  

I dont have steak in this in the words of jlp suffer and die

2020-09-16 21:58:02 UTC  

well you'd have to show how he is combining pagan religion with the Word of God, which I cannot really find in it

2020-09-16 21:58:16 UTC  

@willow wisp well I'm still suffering at least according to what Jesse would think so there you go

2020-09-16 21:58:38 UTC  

Everyone has their own patience how they go about whatever they're doing really as long as it's for good then somebody should keep doing it and if it's not working for them ditch it

2020-09-16 22:00:29 UTC  

@willow wisp but I understand you want to check out check it out and be sure of some things or that's normal that's good but I want to take it super seriously cuz then you're just going to end up in a mess take it with stride man some people go at it hardcore and that's good for them but not for everybody

2020-09-16 22:01:51 UTC  

Jesse clearly says think for yourself he's only offering what could be a great thing and the key word is could i mean he would say it is and definitely seems to be working for him and a lot of people but still the keyword is could

2020-09-16 22:40:45 UTC  

aw one of the cardinals died in my yard and I had to go bury him 😦

2020-09-16 22:46:19 UTC  

@Japheth is that a Catholic joke no I'm just kidding hahaha

2020-09-16 22:47:37 UTC  

i don't get the joke but literally i went outside to push the trash to the curb cause it's trash day tomorrow and one of the neighborhood cardinal was dead near my oak tree, so i had to go fetch the shovel and put him in the ground in the far corner of my yard